pegasus
07-05-2005, 03:05 PM
just received my sw760, does anybody know where I can get mags and a 8" barrel for this gun?
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Brian Ski
07-05-2005, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by pegasus
just received my sw760, does anybody know where I can get mags and a 8" barrel for this gun?
Here is a short thread on mags.... (http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12989)
Is that a semi auto??? If so you cannot convert it to a short barrel without making it an SBR (Short Barreled Rifle) first. It will take a $200 tax. If you shorten the barrel on a semi without making it an SBR it is quite illegal...
Any other questions ask away!!!!
pegasus
07-05-2005, 09:07 PM
The barrel on this one is removable, you can exchange it for another one by just unscrewing the washer that holds it in place. What modifications are you talking about?
:uzi
carcass
07-05-2005, 09:11 PM
Replacing the long barrel on this weapon would be a violation of the National Firearms Act unless you registered the weapon as a Short Barrelled Rifle (SBR) by filing a Form 1 with the BATF and waiting for them to approve it.
Word to the wise: if you find a short barrel, do not even buy it until you have received your approved Form 1 back from BATF.
You should read up on SBRs in Bardwell's NFA FAQ:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/wbardwel/public/nfalist/nfa_faq.txt
SHORT BARRELED RIFLES
A short barreled rifle (SBR) is defined in the law as:
26 U.S.C. sec. 5845(a)
* * * *
(3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels less than 16 inches
in length;
(4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified
has an overall length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or
barrels of less than 16 inches in length; * * *
The NFA law also defines "rifle":
26 U.S.C. sec. 5845(c) "The term 'rifle' means a weapon
designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be
fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned or made
or remade to use the energy of an explosive in a fixed
cartridge to fire only a single projectile through a rifled
bore for each pull of the trigger, and shall include any
such weapon which may be readily restored to fire a fixed
cartridge.
Thus you can see why a machine gun is not also a short barreled
rifle; it is not a rifle. And you can see why a barrel is not
subject to regulation, or registration, in itself. It is a barrel,
it cannot discharge a shot. A receiver alone is also not a short
rifle; a short rifle is only a complete weapon that fits into the
length parameters outlined.
ATF takes the position that this definition includes any
combination of parts from which a short barreled rifle can be
assembled. And they said this included a set of parts with dual
uses. In the Supreme court case of U.S. v. Thompson/Center Arms
Co., 504 U.S. 505 (1992) ATF said a set consisting of a receiver,
a 16"+ barrel, a pistol grip stock, a shoulder stock, and a barrel
less than 16 inches long was a short barreled rifle. The idea of
the kit was that you needed only one receiver, and you could have
both a rifle and pistol in one gun. While making a pistol out of a
rifle is making a short rifle, ATF has approved of converting a
pistol into a rifle, and then converting it back into a pistol,
without "making" a short barreled rifle when it is converted back
into a pistol; that was not an issue. See, for example Revenue
Rulings 59-340, 59-341 and 61-203. T/C made one set on a Form 1,
then sued for a tax refund, claiming the set was not a SBR, unless
it actually was assembled with the shoulder stock, and short
barrel, something they instructed the purchaser of the set not to
do. The Supreme court disagreed with ATF, and agreed with
Thompson/Center.
The Court said that a set of parts was not a short barreled
rifle, unless the only way to assemble the parts was into a short
barreled rifle. As this set had a legitimate, legal, use for all
the parts it was OK. However they also approved of lower court
cases holding that the sale by one person, at the same place, of
all the parts to assemble an AR-15, with a short barrel, was sale
of a SBR, even if they weren't assembled together at the moment of
the bust, and had in fact never been assembled. See U.S. v.
Drasen, 845 F.2d 731 (7th Cir. 1988). This was because the only
use for the parts in that case was a SBR. If the person in that
case also had a registered M-16, then there would be a legitimate
use for the SMG barrel, and there shouldn't be a problem. And the
Court agreed, of course, that a fully assembled rifle with a barrel
less than 16", or an overall length of less than 26" was also
subject to registration. Although it was not addressed in the
case, the rule is that an otherwise short barreled rifle that is
very easily restored to firing condition (readily restorable);
e.g., one missing a firing pin, but for that pin one may substitute
a nail or other common object, is also subject to the law.
pegasus
07-05-2005, 09:38 PM
Thanks for the info!!!! I'll send the form first....
:mg
Brian Ski
07-05-2005, 09:53 PM
Originally posted by pegasus
Thanks for the info!!!! I'll send the form first....
You have to get the form back approved before you begin... It is usually 90+ days...
All the pics you find with short barrels are Submachineguns... or SBR semis...
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