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K2unit
11-30-2006, 04:57 PM
I've been told, but could not find any info with a Google search, that you can use the Norinco ďHunterĒ rifle post ban AK milled receiver with a Galil parts kit to convert it to a Galil clone??? Looking at pictures of the rifle receiver it does look very similar:

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/jfreeman246/page_2.htm

Has any body actually done this before or is there any web page building guide if this is even possible?? Iím not sure how the Hunter attaches the buttstock and how it compares to the circular Galil stock attachment method. There certainly would be an issue of the magazines in 7.62x39 verses .223. Anybody have a Hunter and considered this build?

I thought the experts on this forum might know, so any thoughts would be appreciated! Thanx K2

jetskrtal
11-30-2006, 05:08 PM
I've seen picsof it on the internet ,but I can't remember what sight it was on.Also seen one at Knob Creek last spring.I know this ain't much help, but they are out there,and it can be done.

panaceabeachbum
11-30-2006, 07:36 PM
I have a freind that has a polytech Galil clone thats pretty darn neat. The top cover , stock, forearm, gas block and other bits are very similar to galil but not exact

Oswald2001
11-30-2006, 08:35 PM
Bulgy Galil clone:

http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3339
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Hunter Galil clone:

Older posts, so, some have no photos. I remember these very well and they turned out sweet.

http://www.gunsnet.net/album//showphoto.php?photo=23017&size=big&password=&sort=1&cat=500

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=153844&highlight=galil+clone

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=183509&highlight=galil+hunter

http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=193498&highlight=galil+hunter

jmikesteen
11-30-2006, 10:57 PM
http://akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4091&highlight=norinco+hunter

jmikesteen
11-30-2006, 10:57 PM
http://akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4423&highlight=norinco+hunter

jmikesteen
11-30-2006, 10:58 PM
http://akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4117&highlight=norinco+hunter

jmikesteen
11-30-2006, 10:59 PM
http://akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9757&highlight=norinco+hunter

K2unit
12-01-2006, 02:03 PM
WOW This is a great start. Thanx for the input!

So what Iíve gathered from this info is that the Hunter conversion can and has been done, but requires a piece to be welded onto the rear of the receiver (preferably the back half of a de-milled Galil). Iíve left a message for ďOntgunĒ about locating the back half of a GalilÖAnybody know of a different source with the new parts kits that have been coming in lately?

It also looks like the issue of 7.62x39 verses .223 is solved by simply keeping the original caliber. Am I correct to assume there never was an actual 7.63x39 Galil? This eliminates the drastic change with the magazine well design and keeping the original barrel and bolt assembly. It also looks like the common practice is to use the original hunter bolt carrier and torch/bend up the charge handle and weld on a Galil style knob (Any ideas where these are available?).

I intend to do the work myself for the enjoyment and have access to a great machine/welding shop. Iíve built a few FALís & AK parts kits so this shouldnít be a big stretch. I do have a lead on an inexpensive Norinco Hunter but see that the ORF receivers are now available that seems to have had the ďProblem IssuesĒ changed on the new receivers. Considering that there are so few Hunters around (will they be valuable in the future?), what are the general thoughts on this conversion for a 7.63x39 verses an ORF .223 build?Öor maybe both :-)

Thanx again K2

Oswald2001
12-01-2006, 02:24 PM
May I have the envelope, please?

And the answer is.....

(Sustained drum roll)



BOTH!





There are very few things quite as cool as a well done 7.62 x 39 Galil clone.

jmikesteen
12-02-2006, 05:27 AM
Never a Galil made in 7.62x39 that has been proven. The are people all around that say there were and show pictures of Galil's with 7.62x39 mags hanging out of them but they all look like photo ops to me and others. Do it. It will always be more valuable as a Galil clone than as a Hunter. I have both a Valmet hunter and a 1st type Norinco Hunter (the first type is the one to go with if you can find it as it has the rear sight on the cover) not to mention several Valmets and Galils and I like em all!!

K2unit
12-02-2006, 09:25 PM
Ok there, letís see how this goes! Project 7.62x39 Galil

I picked up the Hunter today, it looks like itís a ďType1Ē but Iím not sure itís a Norinco as I see no markings as such. There is no date stamped serial number but it does say in very small letters ďmade in chinaĒ. I do see prominently the oval with the (386) stamp which I understand is the same factory stamp as the Poly Tech rifles and denotes that they were made in factory #386 located in Shenzhen,China. So Iím going with itís a PolyTech unless somebody else knows better.

The rifle came without magazines, but standard AK Mags seem to fit, latch and cycle ammo fine. Iíll post a before picture as received as the baseline photo. I started to disassemble the rifle, first thing I noticed is that it hadnít been cleaned in awhile, but the bore looks like itís hardly been shot. I took a few pictures at various stages for future builders to look at Ö.letís see if I can figure out how to attach pics to this forum!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/70189637@N00/

Standard Type 1 Poly Tech "Hunter" rifle
Field stripped the rifle to the basic sub components without wood
Added a Galil folding stock I had laying around for another project

Iíve ordered a Galil parts kit from Military Gun Supply $290 just to get started. It comes with a new barrel but without the bi-pod & carry handle. Iím considering buying a second parts kit to try and build both the 7.62 and an ORF .223 and would like your opinion on a few things:

New barrel vs. original used?
With or without bi-pod & handle? AR vs. ARM
Is the .308 bi-pod the same as the .223?
Is there a better supplier for parts kits?
I prefer the wood front hand guard and side folding stock, but see that Vulcan sells plastic front guard and ďsniper wood ď which doesnít look original at all? Any new original wood front hand guards available?

Iím committed to building at least one Galil; the easiest seems to be the straight ORF .223 build. I think for the 7.62 Hunter to be worth while it really needs to have the back half of a demilled Galil receiver!!!! Any body know where to get one???? This is going to be the key issue. I could probably machine something to fit back there that would work, or even weld on the back half of a milled Yugo AK and modify that. It just seems to me that having crest and markings of a real Galil makes all the extra effort worth it!

Iíd appreciate your comments to these questions

Thanx K2

Oswald2001
12-02-2006, 10:04 PM
If it were me.....


I would chase down those links. Find the most knowledgable on those threads and send PM's to them and also post your requests on those sights.

It's all the detective work, creativity and skill that it takes to make one that makes these rare creatures so rare...and cool.


I would read every word of every post regarding a 7.62 x 39 Galil clone on the interenet. Several times.

If you did these things, I believe you will find all your answers.

You have the assurance that this has been done numerous times before. And you can avail yourself of the information available from those that done done it.

cvasqu03
12-22-2006, 02:38 PM
Messiah Jones, who posts on Saiga 12 and SKSBoards has made a working copy out of a Norinco Hunter though he seems to have had to get some parts custom made. Here's a thread he started at Survivor's SKS about it. It seems he's still looking for the correct mag release to make it look right.

BTW, he's experienced with AK builds so this might not be a project for the inexperienced.

http://sksboards.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18704&highlight=&sid=6a76a7423fd883748f27d94ded2be8f9

Sayeret Shaldag
12-22-2006, 04:36 PM
Oh Yeah cvasqu is up in Galil Talk!! I am trying to get cvasqu roped into the Galil craziness. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

jmikesteen
01-02-2007, 01:34 PM
I just put up my type 1 hunter for sale on Gunbroker

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=63363362

jmikesteen
01-02-2007, 04:01 PM
I have had several people ask reserve is $300 get it cheap!!!!!

Dutchkma
01-03-2007, 12:29 PM
I have had several people ask reserve is $300 get it cheap!!!!!
That would be a screamin' deal at that price. If I didn't have one already I'd be all over it. The model with the sight on the cover are not as common as the "flip sight" on the gas tube models. [which I have]

jmikesteen
01-03-2007, 12:47 PM
Get this one and sell yours, That is what I did just now. I found a new in box so I bought it and selling this one.

Dutchkma
01-04-2007, 10:54 AM
Get this one and sell yours, That is what I did just now. I found a new in box so I bought it and selling this one.
Ah yes, the simple solution. I wished it was any way. I'm saving for the SER Galil on AK forum, have the winning bid [so far] on a milled MAK 90, and I need to order a gas block and flash hider from DCI before they are all gone for my "Tabuk" project. Oh, I forgot that I'm on the list for the last run of DCI receivers for the Yugo Mm95 as well. :silly What a habit! Bummer is, I just watched a Valmet 71s go for $899.00 on Gunbroker. [yes, I do need 2 of them]

jmikesteen
01-04-2007, 11:45 AM
LOL I know what you mean.

jmikesteen
01-04-2007, 08:35 PM
It's setting at 300, great buy for someone, shoot the receiver alone is worth that.

jmikesteen
01-08-2007, 09:22 AM
I can't believe it is going for this low a price with only 1 day left!!

Dutchkma
01-09-2007, 07:48 PM
Glad to see it up at the end. Congrats Mike. I guess I stole mine at $305.00.

jmikesteen
01-09-2007, 08:06 PM
You sure did and boy was I glad to see it go up too. I had to pay right at the same price as I got for it's replacement

muzzleloader2
01-23-2007, 12:27 AM
Hello everyone,
I am new to the site and am looking for info that I havent been able to find. I have three question about a norinco hunter to galil conversion process:

1. How much of the demilled rear section do I need to find? I know ontario guns sells the pieces, but do I just need the very last section? or say the last 3-4 inches??

2. How does one mount the pistol grip after having the rear section welded on? Does the hole for the pistol grip come from the rear demilled section or do you need to machine the hole yourself?

3. Which builders have experience doing these conversions ?

Thanks!

terryj
03-07-2009, 04:51 AM
Awesome, that's sweet!
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