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bendavid25
12-07-2006, 06:16 PM
I bought some CDNN 20rd mags and they both stovepipe the last 5 rounds or so. Anyone know why? Thanks ya'll

Oswald2001
12-07-2006, 06:22 PM
If you bought non-IMI contractor or non-MecGar mags, self-flagellation is recommended and encouraged. :chairhit

7.62bthp
12-07-2006, 08:38 PM
If you bought non-IMI contractor or non-MecGar mags, self-flagellation is recommended and encouraged. :chairhit

+1....Definately don't mess with the rifle until you switch mags to a known shooter.

.... but.... If you flagellate longer than 1 minute, you're playing with it

arstaf
12-07-2006, 10:23 PM
I am having the same problem with some of my mags too. Taking a good look at them and testing them out I now believe a lot of mags showing up on the market have bad springs. I will keep testing them and switching springs around but right now this looks to be the problem. Now the new problem is where do we find new springs for 20 & 25 round mags? Wolf has 32 round springs but who has new 20s?

bendavid25
12-08-2006, 06:59 AM
If you bought non-IMI contractor or non-MecGar mags, self-flagellation is recommended and encouraged. :chairhit

I agree...I'm gona go hang myself for being so cheap. :hung

I did the same thing with Sarco, they were even worse :hung

Since its confession time I might as well get it all out, I also bought some mags from cheaperthandirt.com, havent got em yet but I might as well hang myself now :hung

With all these mags I could have bought a full set of nice new IMI's :hung

Oswald2001
12-08-2006, 08:53 AM
I think the CTD mags are German Army surplus IMI's. They should be OK.

Worse case scenerio might be that they need new springs.



Just about everyone has had the cheap-don't-work-off-brand Uzi mag experience.

USA brand mags are notorious for being junk.

Noah Zark
12-08-2006, 09:43 AM
These used German mags all need cleaning. They are sticky/gummy and that adds friction to the system which can cause a failure.

Most Makarov pistol owners can attest that those open 8-rd mags don't like to work well when dirty.

A used mag doesn't go into one of my guns without a good cleaning first. New ones that are packed loose without some kind of packaging also get the same treatment.

And brand-new phosphated/parkerized mags need to have the inside walls "burnished" first or the rounds will bind up from the friction, causing misfeeds. In these mags, load three or four rounds and then "plunge" them to the bottom of the mag repeatedly, using a thin stick like a paint stirrer or a piece of lattice. That burnishes the phos crystals and allows the rounds to slide smoothly inside against the mag walls.

Noah

bendavid25
12-09-2006, 04:12 PM
Think I figured out the mag problem. Looks like the springs are two strong and keep forcing out the rounds pre-maturely when the breach opens (it only does this on the last 5 rounds or so because there is less weight to push up on once the mags are almost empty).

So I cut down the springs a bit so there wont be so much upward pressure. Haven't taken em to the range yet, will keep you posted whether you give a wombats ass or not :)

....yes a wombat.