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ruskiegunlover
03-25-2007, 08:38 PM
With wooden stocks and folder? That people here own? And could one of the IMI folders be made to work on my norinco 320? I am trying to decide between a folder and wooden.....

MJINGP
03-26-2007, 12:07 PM
I recently replaced the folder on my Vector with an IMI wood stock. I much prefer the feel and shootability over the folder. :patriot

Noah Zark
03-26-2007, 03:29 PM
http://www.guns-and-ammunition.com/photoplog/images/97/large/1_DSC07024.JPG

Norinco 320 with a surplus IMI stock fitted using "permanent" (i.e., screws) non-detachable hardware.

Noah

ruskiegunlover
03-26-2007, 04:44 PM
I am a little indecisive still. I do like the compactness of the folder though. I will be doing a lot of hiking on a friends land, so the folder might be nice. But the wood looks good too...

M1A....
03-26-2007, 04:57 PM
Here are a couple I have for sale right here. One is a folder, and one is a wood stock.

Pics for Model A here: http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26054

Pics for Model B here: http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25816
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Vegas SMG
03-26-2007, 05:03 PM
Anyone want to attempt to explain the U.S. parts count laws to this gentleman before he installs a folder on his Norinco?

Noah Zark
03-26-2007, 05:25 PM
Anyone want to attempt to explain the U.S. parts count laws to this gentleman before he installs a folder on his Norinco?

I know what I did -- SBR.

It's getting hard and expensive to fork out the $$$ for US-made parts, and unless you're sitting on a pile of US parts you might well have more than the $200 SBR fee in the gun.

NFA sez the Form 1 for the 320 was approved on 22 March, 34 days from mailing. I lost some time at the front end because 19 Feb was a holiday and the desk guy said they were pretty busy in late Feb.

Noah

Open Bolts
03-26-2007, 06:12 PM
I know what I did -- SBR.

It's getting hard and expensive to fork out the $$$ for US-made parts, and unless you're sitting on a pile of US parts you might well have more than the $200 SBR fee in the gun.

NFA sez the Form 1 for the 320 was approved on 22 March, 34 days from mailing. I lost some time at the front end because 19 Feb was a holiday and the desk guy said they were pretty busy in late Feb.

Noah

Good way to look at it PLUS you get to use a short barrel.

YEP
03-26-2007, 09:04 PM
That's my baby in the avatar.

watchin
03-26-2007, 09:44 PM
Here is my IMI model B, semi-auto.

jonathon
03-26-2007, 10:18 PM
watchin,

That looks great! I like the barrel shroud. Looks like a good way to cover up that ugly barrel(No SBR in WA). I want to do a stock just like that :)

Here's my Vector with my $2 sling.. :goofygrin

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e330/jonathonswiger/guns/uzi/rev/Uzi-Rev008.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e330/jonathonswiger/guns/uzi/rev/Uzi-Rev009.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e330/jonathonswiger/guns/uzi/rev/Uzi-Rev010.jpg

ruskiegunlover
03-26-2007, 10:18 PM
ok, the sbr thing is a ONE TIME ONLY 200 dollar fee? Or is it an every year tax? I am leaning more towards the american made parts.....Maybe american grips, magazines, whatnot. Although, the short barreled rifle thing does appeal if it is a one time only fee. Plus, I am leaning towards the folder.....

jonathon
03-26-2007, 10:20 PM
ok, the sbr thing is a ONE TIME ONLY 200 dollar fee? Or is it an every year tax? I am leaning more towards the american made parts.....Maybe american grips, magazines, whatnot. Although, the short barreled rifle thing does appeal if it is a one time only fee. Plus, I am leaning towards the folder.....

Yup, one time tax of $200 :)

If I could do it in this state I would. The short barrel is sweet :jester

ruskiegunlover
03-26-2007, 10:21 PM
oh, and who sells american made parts? I have only found american made magazines.....which, by the way, how do they perform?

ruskiegunlover
03-26-2007, 10:22 PM
does kansas allow sbr?

ruskiegunlover
03-26-2007, 10:24 PM
although, I want what you just posted jonathan.....I wouldn't mind the sbr, as it would look more original. But selling the rifle becomes more of a pain, right?
What is the most common method of putting a folder on a 16 barrel? What parts are most commonly swapped out? Easiest to swap out?

Vegas SMG
03-26-2007, 11:10 PM
ruskiegunlover; Here's an old post I cut and pasted for you.

Noah; What a simple and brilliant idea! The best solution to the parts delima I've heard to date. You 'da man!

The parts that count for compliance on a standard UZI are as follows:

Receiver
Trunion
Barrel
Bolt
Trigger housing
Trigger
Sear
Disconnector
Stock
Handguards
Pistol grip
Magazine body
Magazine follower
Magazine floorplate
Hammer (striker assembly)
Operating rod (recoil spring)

You could replace only three parts if you never use or posess any foreign made mags, but the US made mags are pretty crappy, and I personally don't like the idea of using any magazine parts as part of a compliance plan.

Of the remaining parts that will allow you to use any magazine, the cheapest parts to replace in ascending order of price are:

handguards
pistol grips
Operating rod (recoil spring)
Hammer (striker assembly)
buttstock (US made fixed, currently there are no US made folding stocks)
Barrel
Bolt

The barrel and bolt are already treading into more expensive parts, so you'd be better off trying to use some US made fire control parts. Unfortunately, the ones I got were made by Group Industries and are no longer available, but I know a fellow board member makes disconnectors. I don't know how much he charges for them though.

good luck.

watchin
03-26-2007, 11:23 PM
..putting a folder on a 16" barrel..hmm..not sure I follow the question. Any UZI carbine can have a folding stock or fixed stock. Washington State does not allow SBR or NFA so there are no UZI 'shortys' running around in public. Once you shoot either FA or semi you will notice that the folding stock is no friend to your cheek. After four or five rounds I folded the stock and shot the rest of the magazine from the hip. Yes, it is a cool UZI feature, folding stock..but if you like to shoot at all you should think about a wooden stock. They are cheap right now. Again, there are laws concerning how they are attached. Mine is a quick detachable stock that has been modified to mount using the same bolt that held the folding stock on. It can be converted in about ten minutes. I don't know the Kansas laws. Funny, you would think that we all lived in the same country, wouldn't you?
-watchin-
Jonathan: How long is that barrel you have on your Vector?

AK43
03-26-2007, 11:46 PM
Here is 2 pics(1 with wood stock and the other with the folding stock (SMG)
If you plan on SBR'ing the uzi

IMG]http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n115/AK43/Uzipackage003.jpg[/IMG]





http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n115/AK43/testpics010.jpg

Nwcid
03-27-2007, 01:26 AM
Here is my Model 45 along with the 9mm set up. This is an older pic, I have more mags and goodies for it now.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/nwcid/HPIM0475.jpg







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jonathon
03-27-2007, 01:36 AM
Jonathan: How long is that barrel you have on your Vector?

18" :silly

Noah Zark
03-27-2007, 07:15 AM
..putting a folder on a 16" barrel..hmm..not sure I follow the question . . .

In another thread we learned that Ruskie's Uzi is a Norinco 320. So he has the US parts count issue to deal with.

But that's an expensive and time-consuming path. Some of the parts are like unobtanium anymore. As I posted above for my 320,

I will choose a path that's clear
I will choose SBR.

(With apologies to Neal Peart)

SBR'ing an imported postban like the 320 turns it into an NFA weapon and the 922r parts count pferdscheisse no longer applies. For the one-time $200 tax, way cheaper than a list of US made parts, I can put my 320 into any buttstock configuration that I want, with a barrel 10" or longer (that's what I put on the Form 1) as long as it's still semiauto.

And in the event that I go to sell it, I can sell it either as an SBR and the buyer pays a $200 transfer tax, or I write the NFA Branch to remove it from the register and I install all the original parts and sell it as a regular postban 320.

Noah

ruskiegunlover
03-27-2007, 04:46 PM
I am considering the sbr deal. How hard is it to find barrels? Original length, as in the short isreali style...

ruskiegunlover
03-27-2007, 04:56 PM
but does anyone still make american parts?

Noah Zark
03-27-2007, 05:02 PM
I am considering the sbr deal. How hard is it to find barrels? Original length, as in the short isreali style...

Barrelexchange has them for SBR, $75.

Or if you have access to a metal lathe you can turn down a $20-$40 original 10.2" SMG barrel. Those are all over the gun auction sites.

Noah

ruskiegunlover
03-27-2007, 06:47 PM
I would like to add american made grips to it, but who carries them? Or does anyone? I have looked everywhere, but can't seem to find anything american made......

watchin
03-27-2007, 10:54 PM
Make sure you use the resources offered on this website (thats where I got this info). Made in USA grips (in a multitude of colors) for the full size UZI can be found at
http://www.uzigrips.com
-watchin-

ruskiegunlover
03-28-2007, 11:20 PM
how and where do you go to apply for sbr?
...man, I love this gun! Looking at the design, I have come to appriciate it more then I ever did. I am impressed by the design, how robust it it. Like an ak, easy and cheap to make, rugged, reliable....
Can't wait for the planned camping trip where I'll be hiking with it.

ruskiegunlover
03-30-2007, 07:30 PM
was just going to say, I ordered my package from centerfore systems last monday, got it last night. Got my american made black grips today....I am a happy customer.