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DBinTexas
03-26-2007, 11:59 PM
Am still considering an AK... didnt realize my choices were for 7.62 vs. 5.45. I havent a clue...

Appreciate any feedback please... One cheaper than the other? Difference in handling gun?

Thanks.

StooperZero
03-27-2007, 12:04 AM
LIght recoil in 5.45....


ammo is still cheap in our frenzied ammo market.

TrippHammer
03-27-2007, 12:16 AM
Good luck finding inexpensive/ sufficient supplies of 5.45X39.5

It's an awesome cartridge.

The Russians found out that the US soldiers in Vietnam actually had an advantage in bullestics w/ the smaller .223 cal ammunition.
In addition:
My dad told me he could carry over 250 rnds of .223 v/s half that in 30-06 or 308

Cons
5.45X39.5
I have never seen a single brass cartridge.
Wolf and Silver Bear If you can get it (slim options)
I've never seen a tracer in this round.

Pros
5.45X39.5
very nice flat bullet
low rise recoil in full auto (The Russians developed a flash suppressor that facilitates a smooth transition in the AK-74U)
Replaced 7.62X39 in 1982

If your looking for a shooter and AK-74 in 5.45X39.5 is going to cost you more money on ammo and going to be diffifult to find surpluss ammo to feed your $17k weapon.

AK-74 are great looking especially the Krink's

Ask yourself what do you want to do DB? Do you want to shoot it or keep it in the safe?

StooperZero
03-27-2007, 12:24 AM
Buy a SAR-2 or a VEPR

Get a couple Bakelite mags and a few tins of ammo.



Best of both worlds..


.223 AK................................

TrippHammer
03-27-2007, 01:20 AM
You ment semi auto????

If your looking to purchase a semi auto AK-47 or 74 their cheap enough, just go buy one of each. Military Gun Supply Ft. Worth sells them for like $375 - $575 in whichever stock format you like. Ask for Steve, he's a great guy to deal with.

I had an AK-74U by Tim LaFrance. This was a truly great gun machine gun, but, I sold it due to the ammo challenges.

Quarterbore
03-27-2007, 09:46 AM
The recoil is different and I really like the 5.45x39 a lot! Both are very reliable and a lot of fun and I don't think there is much difference in 5.45x39 and 7.62x39 ammo and honestly at gun shows lately I have seen more 5.45x39 ammo thenn 7.62x39.

I have the full SAR 1, 2, and 3 family and I like the 5.45x39 in the SAR-2 most.

Now, the Tantals out there are also really nice guns as are many other 5.45x39 aks. For the price, some of the newer guns are really nice and a cheap WASR-2 will get you into 5.45x39 fairly cheap. Just make sure it uses standard double stack mags as I am not a WASR expert by any means.

Open Bolts
03-27-2007, 11:16 AM
There's a lot of 5.45 surplus coming in, both corrosive and non-corrosive steel core airpocket stuff.

DBinTexas
03-28-2007, 01:24 AM
Yes.... Wanting a semi AK... am I missing something, or are the 47 and 74's darn similar?

I thought I'd stray from the Uzi clan for maybe one cheap WASR to start, since theyre $300ish. Yeah, not great I know but decent shooters? Not looking for safe queen... just a modest priced entry-AK I can shoot few times a year and sell someday for at least what I paid for it.

Is this reasonable?... hence the question of which ammo - 7.62x39 or 5.45x39. Sounds like 5.45 makes more sense?

Quarterbore
03-28-2007, 09:05 AM
Yes.... Wanting a semi AK... am I missing something, or are the 47 and 74's darn similar?

I thought I'd stray from the Uzi clan for maybe one cheap WASR to start, since theyre $300ish. Yeah, not great I know but decent shooters? Not looking for safe queen... just a modest priced entry-AK I can shoot few times a year and sell someday for at least what I paid for it.

Is this reasonable?... hence the question of which ammo - 7.62x39 or 5.45x39. Sounds like 5.45 makes more sense?

If I was to only own one AK, I would only have a 7.62x39. There are far more mags for the 7.62x39 and it is just what an AK is supposed to be IMHO.

I have about five 7.62x39s to my one 5.45x39 and one 5.56 AK to put my own oppinions in perspective. Now, I do have two more 5.45x39 builds planned for the very near future but that is because I already have all the 7.62x39 versions I desire.

I just wanted to make sure you didn't pick 7.62x39 out of fear of not getting ammo for the 5.45x39.

My best advise would be to get a WASR in 7.62x39 that will take normal double stack mags. Try the gun and learn about it and you will likely like it! Then, add a 5.45x39 AK to your collection next.

I like shooting the 5.45x39 a little better but if I had to trust my life to an AK I would have a 7.62x39 with me.

Flying Turtle
04-03-2007, 11:34 PM
:ak When asked about it, General Sergei Kalashnikov thought the 5.45 round was a bad idea.:ak

Open Bolts
04-04-2007, 09:53 AM
For what it's worth, some young Russian vets that fought in Chetchena (sp?) that frequented ak-47.net weighed in and said they all used the 5.45 round. The 7.62 wa used by a few old timers.

But since we're talking shooting and collecting here the 7.62 is the classic round and because it's semi it won't jump around on you. I'd vote 7.62 for my first too.

Oswald2001
04-04-2007, 11:38 AM
Would you like a FREE top quality AK?

'Cause you can have one for FREE! :gym


Here's how.

5.45 x 39 can be had for as low as $.11/round....SHIPPED. I just bought 5,400 rounds at that price.

If you bought about 10,000 rounds, you will have saved about $600 or $700 over what you would spend for 7.62 x 39 shipped.


Take the $600-$700 saved and buy a top quality AK-74.

Simple.

I am gearing up to have Galils built in 5.45 x 39 and 7.62 x 39. Both rounds are fine.

For the money...5.45 x 39 is the clear winner...by a mile.

And the 5.45 x 39 is quite a lethal round and great for general plinking too.




And did I mention that you can get a FREE top quality AK?