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suka5168
04-02-2007, 07:22 PM
Rack your brains and list some of the weapons issued by the IDF.
Lets start with the UZI.

I'm pretty sure the Desert Eagle was made by IMI but not a IDF issue handgun.

K.O.A.M.
04-02-2007, 08:10 PM
I'll bite.

Galil, FAL, Mauser 98k, M1 Carbine, M-16, Sten

7.62bthp
04-02-2007, 09:10 PM
Garand....

jurist
04-02-2007, 10:14 PM
Tavor - IMI
Negev - IMI
Enfield -> Leftovers from the British
AK-47 -> Egyptian donations
Jericho - IMI CZ-75 based design
MP-40 -> WW2 Surplus
FN BAR Type D - Purchased from Belguim
M14 -> many captured in 1973 from the Palestinians who had received them from Saudi Arabia who had gotten them from the US
ZK-420S -> Czechozlovakia
M2HB -> US and other surplus sources
MG34 -> Czechozlovakia and surplus
ZB26 -> Czechozlovakia and surplus
U.S. Model 1917 - US Zionists (25,000 to Haganah)
Carcanos -> Purchased from Italy and surplus
Mauser Model 1887 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser M1890 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser Model 1893 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser Model 1903 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mannlicher Model 88/90 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities
Mannlicher M95 rifles -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities

7.62bthp
04-02-2007, 11:35 PM
Tavor - IMI
Negev - IMI
Enfield -> Leftovers from the British
AK-47 -> Egyptian donations
Jericho - IMI CZ-75 based design
MP-40 -> WW2 Surplus
FN BAR Type D - Purchased from Belguim
M14 -> many captured in 1973 from the Palestinians who had received them from Saudi Arabia who had gotten them from the US
ZK-420S -> Czechozlovakia
MG34 -> Czechozlovakia and surplus
ZB26 -> Czechozlovakia and surplus
U.S. Model 1917 - US Zionists (25,000 to Haganah)
Carcanos -> Purchased from Italy and surplus
Mauser Model 1887 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser M1890 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser Model 1893 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser Model 1903 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mannlicher Model 88/90 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities
Mannlicher M95 rifles -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities


Show off.....!:)

terma-nator
04-03-2007, 12:08 AM
Tavor - IMI
Negev - IMI
Enfield -> Leftovers from the British
AK-47 -> Egyptian donations
Jericho - IMI CZ-75 based design
MP-40 -> WW2 Surplus
FN BAR Type D - Purchased from Belguim
M14 -> many captured in 1973 from the Palestinians who had received them from Saudi Arabia who had gotten them from the US
ZK-420S -> Czechozlovakia
MG34 -> Czechozlovakia and surplus
ZB26 -> Czechozlovakia and surplus
U.S. Model 1917 - US Zionists (25,000 to Haganah)
Carcanos -> Purchased from Italy and surplus
Mauser Model 1887 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser M1890 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser Model 1893 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mauser Model 1903 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities from Ottoman surplus
Mannlicher Model 88/90 -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities
Mannlicher M95 rifles -> Haganah used these and may have ended up with IDF in limited quantities

What about the galil? Who made that?

7.62bthp
04-03-2007, 12:23 AM
Galil Schmalil, KOAM already said that....Too easy.:)

I'll throw another in... New era, Glock 17

1948-1952.....Anything they could get their hands on!!!!

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/Poodleshooter556/IDFlogo.gif

po
04-03-2007, 12:43 AM
David Ben Gurion's security detail had 4 Thompsons.

-- po

panaceabeachbum
04-03-2007, 09:37 AM
Dont forget these

1919 browning, aprox 25k

Magal

FN-30 belt fed .308 made by FN specificly for Isreal

Galat'z sniper rifle

DROR light machine gun first isreali designed and feilded gun

Barak pistol , replacing Jericho

SR 99 , latest 308 sniper rifle

M36, now known as the M89SR , this is a bullpup m14 which was later directly coppied as the AWC G2 , the isreali version predates the AWC by 10 years

I have also seen a bunch of polish Radom pistols and Walther p-1 come out of isreal

panaceabeachbum
04-03-2007, 10:13 AM
Glocks, does the corner shot count?

jurist
04-03-2007, 10:53 AM
I'd be a show off if I said I had the guns I listed ;) which I really wish I did, especially the BAR and M2HB.

Armalite AR-7 -> I'm not sure what unit they went to but I have two with Israeli markings, flash hiders (with clamp on suppressor scratches), detachable FAL pistol grips, and collapsible wire stocks that are removed with an allen wrench.

Beretta 948 -> probably not actual mainstream IDF, more likely the המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידים מיוחדים

Ruger 10/22 Integrally suppressed -> issued to Snipers for crowd control

panaceabeachbum
04-03-2007, 11:32 AM
well Ill fess up most of those I listed I read about a while back at this great site http://www.israeli-weapons.com/israeli_weapons_small_arms.html

is the berretta 948 a helwan like single stack ?

jurist
04-03-2007, 12:11 PM
The Beretta 948 is a single stack, single action .22lr. Its based on the Beretta Model 1934 but it does look a bit like the Helwan.

M240
04-03-2007, 02:26 PM
Dror LMG


http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/small_arms/dror/Dror.html

7.62bthp
04-03-2007, 02:43 PM
I'll bet there was more than a few 1911s...The real neat thing about the early IDF is they operated on a "run what ya brung" therory. I had a close family friend whos Dad was a B24 pilot in WWII. After the war, he was part of a deal that sold B24s to Mexico, and from there they flew them to Israel. Direct sales of arms were a no-no back then. It's nice how things changed.

jericho941
04-03-2007, 05:14 PM
How about the SP-21 Barak?

panaceabeachbum
04-03-2007, 05:32 PM
yep got the dror and Barak already

crunker
04-03-2007, 06:59 PM
Didn't they make a Micro Uzi that used GLOCK 9mm magazines?