Got an HK 94 rifle today, Need HELP Please.

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Got an HK 94 rifle today.

Looks to be unfired, very clean and minty, but the Upper and the Lower Receivers show a difference in colors.

The upper is the proper typical light color as HK did, and the bottom is black.

Looks as an all original rifle and shows no signs of any useage or any repaint, even the barrel and the inside where the mag goes shows no paint wear.

So basically clearly appears to be unfired and very clean.

But the bottom is a darker black than the top.


Can anyone explain Why and How this would be ?


And what this means as far as the Originality, Collectability and the Value... ?


(this may help, rifle came with A2 Stock, and the Slim Handguard, both are 2IC date coded, and a front fake Supressor with handle)


Thank you much.



:rolleyes

[jcook119]

As long as it works, I wouldn't worry about it. You are going to shoot it, arent you? :)

It could be that the original owner swapped lowers for some reason, I don't know. If it bothers you, you can probably find a lower with a better color match. I doubt anyone could tell it wasn't the original one if you swapped them.

Congrats on the nice find, BTW.

Thanks,
James

[az paul]

Congrats!! The HK94 is a truly great toy!!

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Thank you gentlemen so much for your kind words and uplifting spirits.


And yes I am going to shoot it ofcourse some day, but if I really knew that it truly was unfired as it appears to be from the inside and the overall appearance, I perhaps may just keep her in a closet and just stare.


Now on HKPRO I am learning that the 94 rifle may be a tab of a darker gray color overall and not the typical blue/gray as most 91s and 93 are.

Seems there are several shades of the gray and the blue/gray that HK did...???

My HK94 appears to be more of a flat gray finish unlike the HK91 that I also have which is a shiny blue/gray finish.

If anyone has any input on such I would surely appreciate and welcome it.


Thank you.

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Ok so after putting my HK 94 and my HK 91 right next to eachother and looking at them side by side using a very bright studio light here is what I see...


My HK94 appears to be more of a flat gray finish (the complete upper) unlike the HK91 which is more towards a shiny blue/gray finish.


Clearly seems they are different finishes and paints used overall between the two rifle uppers.

(the lowers on both rifles are much closer to eachother in color but still are a tiny little bit different)


What does this mean ???

[jcook119]

It doesn't mean anything. No one is going to care about that from a collector point of view except guys who are so anal you won't want to deal with them anyway :)

Seriously, don't worry about it. If it REALLY bothers you, have it refinished. Jayson at IGF does excellent work. But then of course it won't be original anymore, and there are several guys who do value a refinished gun less than an original.

Thanks,
James

[AGG]

TIS,

What is the date code?
Posting pics would assist greatly!

Tony

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i took her apart, the bolt is date coded ID on both ends, under barrel it is marked IDCA.

the bolt also has a stamp of eagle.

the outer parts of rifle are marked 2IC on the slim handguard and the rear a2 stock alike.

it is a 4 digit serial number on the very top starting with 39**
followed by a few symbols and an ID marking


are there any codes somewhere that i overlooked ?


(after looking over the inner parts and the trigger and the inner barrel, etc., inside she is i would honestly say really like new, just off the factory floor, all parts inside are mint)

(the outer appearance is also as new, the paint of the HK94 on the complete upper is a flat non shiny gray color and it slighly differs from my hk91 which is a typical shiny blue/gray color)


what does all this mean ?


any input on all this would be very helpful and truly appreciated.


thank you much.





oh and pics are coming soon...

[GRUNT71]

Ok hey we go. The eagle stamp is a quality control stamp. The following are date codes. A=0, B=1, C=2, D=3, E=4, F=5, G=6, H=7, I=8, K=9. J is reserved for Proof house use and on HK parts not required to be proof tested such as magazine housing. the Symbols you refer to are proof marks. there are 6 proof houses in Deutchland(Germany). If the symbol looks like the antler of a deer, thats ULM and is utilized by HK. If it looks like a bear faceing left, thats Berlin. If it looks like a outline of a star or wierd flower, thats Kiel. If it looks like a horse facing left, thats Hannover. If it looks like a shield with diamonds on it, thats munich. And if it looks like a shield with crowns on it, thats Koln(Colonge in english). hope this helps.

[Patriot]

Now all you need is a sear!

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thank you gentlemen

: )

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where/how to get one ?

[Patriot]

Go HERE: http://www.impactguns.com/store/MGT-H3266.html

Be prepared for sticker shock.

[HK AG]

Ok so after putting my HK 94 and my HK 91 right next to eachother and looking at them side by side using a very bright studio light here is what I see...


My HK94 appears to be more of a flat gray finish (the complete upper) unlike the HK91 which is more towards a shiny blue/gray finish.


Clearly seems they are different finishes and paints used overall between the two rifle uppers.

(the lowers on both rifles are much closer to eachother in color but still are a tiny little bit different)


What does this mean ???

time

From what I have read from you it appears that the upper and lower were separated at some point. The early HK's mostly 91's as they were brought in first (some in early 70's) were the HK Blue Gray color. As you approach the late 80's prior to the 89 ban you see them in the darker paint. The 94's which came in later (mid 80's) were a darker color but still blue gray at first later moving to a blacker color. I have never seen a NIB HK that had a split color like that from the factory.
You typically see the same thing with A2 stocks, the upper and lower will be the blue gray color and the A2 stock a dark black, that means someone took off the A3 stock to sell it separately and put on an A2 stock they had lying around.
Since I am on this stock topic notice how many HK 93's you see sold with the MP5 A2 one piece stock or the 94A3 stock. Same story someone broke up the unit to sell the 93 A2 stock off separately and replaces it with a more available 94 stock.
An HK collector would likely prefer one matching color. However for a shooter or fun gun you cant beat a 94.
Dont put the HK factory scope on it unless you are prepared to remove paint from that area. The same for the port buffer!! Collectors frown on scoped and buffered models.

hope this helps,
HK Ag