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nutinauniversalshell
12-28-2009, 03:39 AM
So I ordered 2 of the new Century CETMEs from atlantic firearms (1 for me and 1 for my uncle).

16.25" barrel, compensater, 2 steel 20 round mags

from what I was told (not home to see them yet) they look great.

1 has a bayonet lug the other was just a hole (though the box said with bayo lug...oversight maybe? I ordered the $8 bayo lug piece since both rifles have the same holes for that spot....should fit.)

I already have:

From robertrtg.com
"OD green rear stocks"....which are more of a brown...along with PGs
half the OD foregrips are surplus and not great condition
the other half are the FMP new jungle? green
i paid more to get 1 fmp extra not expecting 3 total
2 wood buttstocks

from CTD (hate to use them but royaltigerimports has RETARDED shipping prices):
100 20 round alloy mags
10 i think rubberized pouches

on the way

centerfire:
wood forend
bayo lug
canvas sling
bayonet

Now for the ?s

any other good places for parts and accessories?
how are the original scopes?
wide handguard?
with or without bipod?
carry handle?
port buffer?

30 round mags? saw a couple rifles on GB with multiple 30 rounders (not USA or national mags either) but not alot of info about the 30s
30 rndr prices, differences, where to buy?

I intend to put up a range report once I get home and test it....dont want to buy TOO much for it until I know it works right (a little late I know).

So what can you fellers that have knowledge and experience tell me?


PS: If the bayo lug piece is not in the box or somewhere when I get back, I will check with Blaine about it. But i cant complain about that small issue since he gave me a good deal on what i was looking for (16" barrel version).

nutinauniversalshell
12-29-2009, 05:22 PM
so no one has any info on the accessories or mags.

All I can find online is links to forums from years ago.

any help with what is good and not would be appreciated....dont want to buy something that isnt useful.

infoseeker456
12-29-2009, 07:21 PM
I think the reason you may not have a lot of response is people may not entirely know what parts are exchangable from a CETME to a G3.

For HK parts I generally use Adam Webber at HKparts.net. I have purchased a great deal from him and have always been happy.

I don't know about CETME parts though.

I don't know if a G3 22 kit will fit in a CETME, but if it will, definitely get one of those. They are one of the best 22 kits out there. Tough to beat a factory 22 kit.

I am sure you will have a great time with that gun.

nutinauniversalshell
12-30-2009, 12:18 AM
http://www.robertrtg.com/cetmeinfo.html

compatability page for parts.

but I guess my ?s are more in general....most of the accessories I ask about are easily fitted to the CETME.

Cant find much on the higher capacity mags.
And not much first hand experience with the accessories, just parts for sale.

Thanks for what you put. If the price comes down on the 22 kits, i may get one, but for now, I am trying to get away from 22s since the ammo keeps getting crappier and crappier (too many double taps and non-firing rounds....in any of my many 22 firearms).

MarkV
12-30-2009, 01:40 PM
rtg is a great resource; bought plenty of parts from him for my hk91.

the 30rd mags are far and few between, i've found you'll pay upwards of $50 for a HK 30 rounder. i have bought two in the ten years that i've been looking (not hard). basically looks like two steel 20 rdrs welded together. i never really took a look at the springs to see how they're made. you'll have to keep an eye out for them but they don't usually sit around long. stumbled across a couple in stores but usually they want to sell the gun it's with or ask rediculous prices.

allied armament recently released a 50 rd drum, hkparts.net and rtg sells 'em too. haven't heard enough about it yet and i'm reluctant to be a beta tester for four bills. but might consider it when there's money to burn and no other projects in the cue.
http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/viewPrd.asp?idproduct=1283&idcategory=

they do note on pg 16 that there are variations between cetme and hk mags with respect to corners.
http://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/catalog/aag8drum.pdf

any other good places for parts and accessories? rtg, hkparts.net, hkspecialiststore.com
how are the original scopes? decent for what you get... i picked up a kit including claw mount and 4x hensholdt for a little over 3 bills shipped. there's someone that makes a little red led illuminator for the scopes for about $30 too. overall good glass but 60's technology. glass is tall on the claw mount so you might want one of those cherokee cheek risers. risers are good for the scopes but need to removed to shoot irons. there's other current options if you're looking to spend more cash.
wide handguard? works well with bipod, stick with the slim handguard if you don't want a bipod
with or without bipod? see above. these are fairly heavy rifles imo so a bipod is nice especially if you mount a can and or optics.
carry handle? have one, it's okay. it's a little forward of the balance point. not a big issue but need to modify cetme handguard to use.
port buffer? these guns really fling brass, if you reload or just want to be polite to the shooter next to you it's a good buy.

nutinauniversalshell
12-30-2009, 05:32 PM
cool and thanks.

I do reload so I may have to get the port buffer. Bipod and wide hg might happen at some point too.

I MAY mount a can...want to get one for my PBR and like to have use on multiple arms.

Mags may be a little different, but I have no problem tinkering to make em work. I thought about cutting and welding some 20s to make higher capacity mags....might try it since the mags are CHEAP!

Drum probably wont happen for me. $400 for 50 rnd drum or $4 for 3 20rnd mags....hell if it works, cut and weld 3 mags for ~50 rnds.


I appreciate the reply. If any other suggestions/recommendations arre out there I will appreciate the info.

PS: I don't think I will buy anything else until I get home and test the rifle. I hope it works well.

MPA guy
12-30-2009, 05:46 PM
My buddy bought some 30 round mags at a gunshow in Knoxville, TN a few months ago for his.

I can't remember which table he bought them from, but I could ask if he still has the reciept if it would help.

nutinauniversalshell
12-31-2009, 12:32 AM
sure. maybe I will get lucky and they will still have some.

I guess I have to go to the knoxville show again (only went to it once).

az paul
12-31-2009, 12:56 AM
What A Country may still have the 30-rounders. At one point, they had the $19.95 aftermarket mags and the HK South African ones for $39.95. A few years back, I bought one of the HK South African ones and it ran fine in the HK91. Don't know how it would run in a Cetme. I wouldn't gamble on the aftermarket mags.

jpm0155
01-04-2010, 05:17 PM
From what I remember, cheaper than dirt was having a sale on CETME/G3 30 rounders. I ordered one of them and yes they are junk out of the box, but they will fit the CETME with some TLC, a vice, and some pliers. Overall, stay away from the 30rd mags and stick with the stockpiled 20 rd.

Update:

13 bucks

Here's the link:
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MAG307-36.html

Jager
01-04-2010, 05:49 PM
There are actual 30 round Cetme magazines out there. They fit my HK91 just fine, prices around $50 each when I see them. I had a friend with a Century Cetme. HK aluminum mags would not fit, HK steel mags could be modified to fit. I ended up with his aluminum mags and he sold the rifle.

nutinauniversalshell
01-04-2010, 06:19 PM
well, I know where i will order some steel ones when i get soe more money.

found the 30 round ones for a fair price ( but again broke) South african ones....might get a couple later.

i guess for now im just looking forward to getting home and checking it out.

a quick review of my dad's Hesse H91---
Mags do not fit right (front will drop down and cause feed issues if it isnt held forward).
Shot fine though...he may fix the problem with a small piece in the rear of the magwell....or sell it.
Brass was thrown 20 feet through some branches :( 9 of 15 found in the snow).

I hope the century i have waiting for me is better.

nutinauniversalshell
01-11-2010, 03:50 AM
OK update and review.

Shot 20 rounds from 1 with only 1 malfunction (the case had a slightly crushed bottleneck area from too much crimp....let the bolt hit it in again and it closed all the way). So I cannot fault it for that.

Shot 80 rounds from the other. 3 Malfunctions in the first mag only (my fault for trying to use my hand then a cap for a brass catcher....it blocked the ejection port). 2nd mag shot well. 3rd and 4th bumpfired very well.

As for fit and finish, both looked great out of the box, but were rough on cocking them. My uncle cleaned and oiled his and it was much smoother. Mine was VERY stiff/rough to cock back. The inside was like sandpaper and the outer paint was over-sprayed to cover the inside partly. I took fine sandpaper and sanded the inside by hand...it was smooth inside within just a few minutes. The cocking tube still had a rough texture where I couldnt reach. I sprayed some bullet drop lube in there (graphite)...but the propellant or something took a couple spots of paint off the cocking tube :( OOPS.

Mag fit...my uncles takes a light tap to seat the steel mags or aluminum g3 mags fully. Mine takes more of a smack. His has very little slop in the mag once seated. Mine has virtually none. While a tight fit, its better than sloppy as the tight fit feed well.

Problems?

1) The add at Atlantic says the rifles are fully parked. I see NO park on the barrel, receiver, or cocking tube.

Centerfire has the same rifle and it says stamped non-stainless receiver...these I'm not sure.

The rough inside makes me think cast stainless receiver? Ill put some cold blue on the bare part of the cocking tube and inside of the receiver later to see if it sticks.

2) One did not have the bayo lug/cleaning kit tube....ordered for CFS but they STILL havent processed the order...almost week and a half now.

3) Rear sights dont lock in place tightly....I might be able to take it apart and clean the holes for the detent...idk yet.

4)Cosmetic...rear stock metal piece that goes on the receiver is parked only....doesnt match the rest of the gun.


Now

Is there a way besides just the cold blue to tell if its stamped carbon steel, stainless, or cast stainless?

Any recommendations for a good tough but beautiful finish (I may strip and duracoat it at some point)?

Any recommendations for any of the other problems?

PS: Brass seemed to have a softer eject than the Hesse I shot....it only went about 10 feet forward right.

MPA guy
01-11-2010, 08:18 AM
You asked if there was another way to tell if it was aluminum or steel.

Try a magnet.

As for centerfire, I had some trouble with them not shipping an order a long time ago too. I'm not too fond of them personally, but my bet is, they don't have something in your order in stock. They're real bad for that.

v188
01-16-2010, 05:35 PM
I've had a Cetme for several years, bought during the ban years. Anyway, it's fun, but it absolutely crunches brass. I've never seen anything throw the brass as far, but it is consistent and all the brass falls close together. But, forget about reloading, as i said it just crushes the brass.

Kind of a fun gun tho. Haven't shot it in 7-8 years. Might have to drag it out again sometime. BTW mags are dirt cheap.

nutinauniversalshell
01-16-2010, 07:11 PM
OK i though I put my review up, but it must not have gone through.

The brass is NOT destroyed!!!
The receiver is carbon steel!!!

It is not parked under the paint :( but it shot great.

So overall, I would say if you want a CETME , get one of the new one's with the 16.5" barrel.

A few minor problems, but they dont seem to be hit and miss like the old ones.

ateamrob
01-18-2010, 10:46 PM
Yeah they are great guns.

I got mine about 6 months ago and I love it.

The first 100rds or so had a few failure to feeds but it seemed to work itself out.

I love the gun. Best 800 bucks I ever spent. :)

Rob

nutinauniversalshell
01-19-2010, 12:12 AM
$800 damn. I paid under $500....shipped.

I probably have $800 with the 100 extra mags, 5 or 6 stock sets (green and wood), bayo, sling, etc.

But yeah, I love it so far. If I get some extra cash, Im gonna get some 30 round mags. But first is Nagant revolver, polish and romanian tokarevs, 7.5 french and 6.5 carcano ammo. Soooo much to get and so little cash.

black sheep
04-21-2010, 07:02 PM
i have some new wood sets,pistol grips,hammers triggers sears rollers cotter pin thigs, hammer springs, extracters etc. maybe an ejector or two....
lmk if you are interested...caterpillarbob@gmail.com:D

SteyrAUG
04-30-2010, 09:02 PM
any other good places for parts and accessories?
how are the original scopes?
wide handguard?
with or without bipod?
carry handle?
port buffer?

30 round mags? saw a couple rifles on GB with multiple 30 rounders (not USA or national mags either) but not alot of info about the 30s
30 rndr prices, differences, where to buy?



1. Don't know about many suppliers specifically for CETME parts.

2. Pretty sure a CETME takes a standard claw mount so any factory HK mount and scope setup should be good to go.

3. Cetme's never had one. Not sure if a factory HK wide will fit, early G3 rifles won't accept them as there is a barrel ring designed to keep the handguard from moving before they invented the collar ring which hangs over the cocking tube. And they never made a wide wood so you'd have to change all the furniture.

4. Without a wide handguard with bipod slit you are gonna need to find the rare and expensive slimline bipod setup.

5. Not sure if a HK carry handle will fit, I personally think they are sorta pointless.

6. Port buffers are the #1 culprit of screwing up HK finishes. In short you can't install or remove them without doing a lot of damage. And they really aren't necessary.

7. If they are factory, go ahead. Aftermarket HK mags are notorious for not working well.

nutinauniversalshell
05-08-2010, 01:37 AM
Mine has (should say had) the ring. I filed it down and put a wide handguard w/ bipod on it.

The GSG-5 low profile mount fits. And I have a little red dot on it right now.

Basically its setup nearly how I want it. (Green furnature, bipod, etc.)

Just want a original HK type scope for it w/ illuminater at some point.

Only thing I don't have is a 30 round mag yet. Soon enough (bought a car so wasnt spending money for awhile).

adipose
05-22-2010, 09:16 PM
$800 damn. I paid under $500....shipped.

I probably have $800 with the 100 extra mags, 5 or 6 stock sets (green and wood), bayo, sling, etc.

But yeah, I love it so far. If I get some extra cash, Im gonna get some 30 round mags. But first is Nagant revolver, polish and romanian tokarevs, 7.5 french and 6.5 carcano ammo. Soooo much to get and so little cash.

Where did you purchase the 2 rifles at for that price?

Thanks, Chuck

nutinauniversalshell
05-23-2010, 01:12 AM
Atlantic Firearms....with theakforum member discount

They were supposedly parked then painted, but I see no parking.

I ended up selling mine to my dad, after another one was acquired from the local pawn shop for $280 (they didnt know what it was worth so they let me have a deal).

I was going to go with J&G Sales, but every time I decide to get something from them they drive me away with a general attitude of not wanting to make a sale (phone conversations), not having an advertised item in stock (steel AK74 mags), or RIDICULOUS shipping charges (more recently on ammo).

Atlantic Firearms
05-23-2010, 09:18 AM
We have the CETME rifles in stock the retail price is $499.00 pls we would offer a discount to UZI Talk members , please feel free to email us your user name for a current price quote , sales@atlanticfirearms.com

nutinauniversalshell
05-23-2010, 09:04 PM
Gotta love those guys. Great products and service.

Cannot say a bad thing about them.

Even saw a rifle that came through the gun shop I hang out at that had a messed up barrel (in the receiver, so it wasnt an easy notice w/o taking it apart)...the shop had it replaces in no time. I look forward to my next purchase from them. :)

SteyrAUG
05-23-2010, 09:44 PM
Gotta love those guys. Great products and service.

Cannot say a bad thing about them.

Even saw a rifle that came through the gun shop I hang out at that had a messed up barrel (in the receiver, so it wasnt an easy notice w/o taking it apart)...the shop had it replaces in no time. I look forward to my next purchase from them. :)

Yep Blaine is a pretty good guy.

My only real complaint about Atlantic is if they have it for sale, you might as well forget trying to sell it yourself. Simply not worth the Kmart markup to have it in inventory.

:D