DeLisle commando carbine?

[LosingNemo]

Hi folks . Im new here and I'm looking for someone who owns one these DeLisle suppressed carbines. I'm thinking of getting one but would like some opinions of someone who's had some first hand experience with one. I geuss my main concern is the sights. Are they easily adjustable for windage and elevation. I may hold out for one of the 2000 models and just go with a red dot scope . Anyway if anyone has any first hand knowledge on the subject i'd be interested in your opinions. Gotta help a rookie out you know. Haha!:phttp://www.valhttp://www.valkyriearms.com/d2000.htmkyriearms.com/delisle.htmatriot

[stymie]

http://subguns.biggerhammer.net/mgmsgarchive.cgi?search

Go back a couple of years & enter DeLisle in the SEARCH feature.
Interesting READ...



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P. Sherman
42 Wallabee Way
Sydney

[LosingNemo]

I wonder if I'd be better off with DVC armament's .45 bulldog terminator? Has anyone here delt with DVC armament at all? If you have let me know. Its hard to invest the time and money into something you really want with out being able to try it out first. All it takes is a little negative feedback and it ruins it for you. Thank God for the internet.

[Racer]

Another suggestion might be a Suppressed Ruger 77/44 in 44 Mag (the suppressor is also registered in 45 ACP and .50AE) from TD Mfg. I love mine -- it is as quiet as a .22 lr suppressed pistol and disassembles for cleaning. It works great with 44 Special factory or I handload a 300 grain JHP in a .44 Mag case at 1025 fps.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/165305.jpg

[MuzzleFlash]

Originally posted by LosingNemo
I wonder if I'd be better off with DVC armament's .45 bulldog terminator? Has anyone here delt with DVC armament at all? If you have let me know. Its hard to invest the time and money into something you really want with out being able to try it out first. All it takes is a little negative feedback and it ruins it for you. Thank God for the internet. Welcome. Love the handle!

It sounds like you're looking primarily at large pistol calibers (there are some reasonable .308 subsonic loads out there too). Do you prefer an integral or portable can?

On the chance that you don't already know this, the TD setup Racer refers to is featured in Volume TWO [Ed.] of Silencer History and Performance by Al Paulsen, et al. (pp. 246-249). He also spends considerable space on the DeLisle (pp 206-228) and it's modern variants (pp. 229-249).

Whatever you chose, be sure to do a writeup. I may want to get me one of these next year ;)

[Racer]

Originally posted by MuzzleFlash


On the chance that you don't already know this, the TD setup Racer refers to is featured in Volume One of Silencer History and Performance by Al Paulsen, et al. (pp. 246-249). He also spends considerable space on the DeLisle (pp 206-228) and it's modern variants (pp. 229-249).

;)

Only one small correction -- the write-up on both suppressors is in VolumeTWO. IMHO both Volumes are excellent reads.

[MuzzleFlash]

Good catch Racer. I changed the post to avoid confusion.:)

[Deanh]

I have been looking for anyone with feedback on the DVC or GGG bulldog terminator for years.

I saw one at the SAR show last year and it is a work of art!

What's really neat about it is easily and quicly breaks down into two sections, receiver/buttstock & suppressor.

The magazine well has a rubber bumper to damper the sound of the brass being ejected.

I have never been able to find anyone that has heard it shoot. I just resigned myself to making a special trip to their shop next time I'm in AZ and hearing it for myself.

I want one bad tho!

[LosingNemo]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I talked with William @ gg&g for a little while today on the way back home from Lousianna. He told me they are so tied up right now that they arnt taking any orders on bulldogs for another 6 months. That sucks. I also talked to John Tibbetts who is making the suppressors for the new Valkyrie arms DeLisle 2000 and he told me to contact him in a couple of months to see if they had it nailed down yet on that project. I'm pretty happy to see him making those because that man knows his stuff. Looks like another lesson in patience in the class 3 world for me. DAMN.

[MuzzleFlash]

I hear that most suppressor manufacturers are balls to the wall with goverment and agency orders lately, so not much surprise.

[MuzzleFlash]

Originally posted by Racer
Another suggestion might be a Suppressed Ruger 77/44 in 44 Mag (the suppressor is also registered in 45 ACP and .50AE) from TD Mfg. I love mine -- it is as quiet as a .22 lr suppressed pistol and disassembles for cleaning. It works great with 44 Special factory or I handload a 300 grain JHP in a .44 Mag case at 1025 fps.
http://www.hunt101.com/img/165305.jpg Here is an example of a similar gun from SRT:


http://www.srtarms.com/bison.jpg

http://www.srtarms.com/7744.htm

There are links to reviews of the gun as well.

The highlight of the Guns and Weapons review:

115 dB with Black Hills 210gr LFP using Mil STD technique
5dB over the firing pin noise on an empth chamber.