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imi9guy
08-20-2004, 05:49 PM
This is a notched (BOH) AK selector. It suped the function on my AK up. I really like it and I wanted to share pics of it with everyone!

Thanks Randy!!!

imi9guy
08-20-2004, 05:51 PM
Bolt Hold Open- this kicks ass !!!

imi9guy
08-20-2004, 06:12 PM
Did I put this in the right forum? If not feel free to move it ...!

cvasqu03
08-20-2004, 08:15 PM
looks great, did you have to send the rifle in or do they provide the part for self installation? About how much was it?

MuzzleFlash
08-21-2004, 01:22 AM
I have one on my milled receiver (a Bulgarian SLR-95). I had to do some minor fitting b/c it wouldn't fully rotate up (hit the top cover and occasionally the bolt would slam forward). After the tweeking, it works fine.

I suspect with stamped receivers, they are a drop in replacement.

Gun Shot
08-21-2004, 02:26 AM
It's self install, and should be drop-in.

It's as easy as removing your top cover and charging handle...If you can break your Ak down for a field cleaning, you can install this. No tools required if it's just like a normal selector.

imi9guy
08-22-2004, 07:19 PM
This is on a Romanian SAR-1. I installed it in no time with no fileing or drilling. It seems loose against the reciever body, but thats alright. It saves for scratches and re-blue touch ups not to mention lube, although, thats not important, the function is and it rules! I'd like to see an AK bolt hold open on the last shot but Im not holding my breath! For now this looks like an original part and functions great!

Gun Shot
08-22-2004, 07:49 PM
I'd like to see an AK bolt hold open on the last shot but Im not holding my breath!

Well you can breathe, because Blackjack makes those too! He sells them for $7.00 a pop, or 4 for $25.

Scroll 1/4 down the page and look for BHO followers:

Click here. (http://www.blackjackbuffers.com/bjbcatalog3.html)

cvasqu03
08-22-2004, 09:00 PM
I actually have a 20 rd. polymer AK mag made in Germany I bought years ago that holds the bolt open. A piece of it cracked off around the front side so I haven't used it in years, but it actually still works.

As far as I can tell, the only difference is that the follower is inverted. That is, instead of the raised end being on the right side, it's on the left side (or vice versa, can't remember). Apparently this is enough to engage part of the bolt, which apparently needed the clearance to continue forward. Kind of makes you wonder why the mags weren't designed this way to begin with.

imi9guy
08-23-2004, 04:08 PM
Ive seen these on BJB's page but I wasnt sure how the heck it worked so I ignored it!

can you guys explain how they work?

I have a glock and I can see how that works ............ do I replace the original follower w/ his follower? does it go on top of the original follower? ............ what part on his follower accually stops the bolt? .......... do I need to modify my mags? ........... I need some kind of visual here lol .......!

Thank in advance guys

cvasqu03
08-23-2004, 04:23 PM
if this one works the same way as my german mag does (see my post above), it's just a reversed follower. you would take your mag apart and remove the old follower and put this one in its place when putting the mag back together. as you know, the follower has two "steps" on it that simulate bullets and establish the zig zag pattern the bullets are loaded in, so when you press the first round into the magazine, you press it down against the side with the lower step. The traditional AK mags have the raised end on one side so when the bolt files over an empty mag, it goes all the way to battery with an empty chamber.

This mag follower has the raised "step" on the opposite side so the bolt actually hits the back of the follower and stops. Yeah, I was skeptical of this too when I bought that german mag, lo and behold it worked. Really made me wonder why they weren't all designed this way to begin with.

Mind you, I'm just explaining how my German made polymer mag works, I'm not sure this follower is the same, but I think it's safe to assume so.

If you want, I can try to post pictures tonight when I get home.

cvasqu03
08-24-2004, 09:55 PM
I went ahead and got an image of what the two followers look like. Sorry the image is a little blurry, my digital camera sucks so I just put the two mags on my scanner.

The mag on the left is a regular AK mag (well, actually it's a Polish polymer AK mag). As you can see, the upper "step" of the follower is on the left. The magazine on the right is the German polymer 20 rd. magazine I mentioned that has the "hold open bolt" feature. As you can see, the German mag has the upper "step" on the right, and the follower seems designed to stick up much further than on a regular magazine.

If you look closely, you can see an area at the upper left hand corner of the upper step of the follower that looks shiny and compressed like if it was hit by a hammer. This is where the bolt hit the follower and stopped.

If Black Jack's follower follows the same principle, it should be similar to this.


http://bellsouthpwp.net/v/a/vasq6875/uzisite/images/followers.jpg

Gun Shot
08-25-2004, 07:59 PM
BJ's follower replaces the old follower, FWIW!

imi9guy
08-26-2004, 12:45 AM
I could not see the step BJB's follower pic, it looks flat. That threw me off. It looks like the mag on the right was cut out a bit under the "step." Did you do that or not? I also wonder if you or any one would know if the mag follower works with "notched" saftey lever he has.

Thanks again

cvasqu03
08-26-2004, 01:22 AM
The magazine is as it was when I got it. I did notice that the back back of the magazine looked different, but this didnt' seem to actually affect the way it functioned.

You're right, on the BJB follower it's hard to see which side is raised. To me it acually looks like a normal follower. Maybe his just rises higher but is actually "stepped" in the same fasion as the regular ones. I might have to buy one or two just to check them out.

I would assume the mag would work with the notched lever, but not flawlessly. The lever is notched to hold the bolt back almost as far back as it will go, whereas the magazine follower would stop the bolt after it has traveled forward a little more (far enough to normally touch the back of the cartridge).

Of course you could always use the magazine until it stops the bolt, then pull back on the bolt carrier a little and move the safety lever up to hold it in place.