steel and aluminium cased amm?

[pmf]

I bought a case of Wolf 45 acp. Its steel cased. Is it safe to reload steel cased ammo? Its boxer primed.

Also, I've seen a lot of aluminium cased ammo around. Is this stuff safe to shoot in a submachine gun? I'm assuming no.

[RoverDave]

CCI does not recommend using their aluminum cased Blazer ammo in an open bolt gun.

[pmf]

That's kind of what I expected. A couple of guys wanted to try my uzi at the range last time I was there and had CCI Blazer ammo. I tild them they had to get some brass cased stuff because my gun wouldn't shoot it. They found some and came back.

Almost everytime I go to the range I get at least 1-2 people who ask about my uzi. I always offer to let them try it. Its fun to watch people shoot a full auto gun for the first time.

[carcass]

Yeah, don't use aluminum-cased ammo in an open-bolt gun.

I have reloaded the Wolf .45 steel-cased ammo. It works pretty well. So far, I've reloaded a couple of cases 3 times and no problems.

As always, be careful!

[tommygun2000]

I have reloaded the Wolf steel cased stuff with great results.

Don't hesitate to reload it if its all you have.

[Vegas SMG]

I'd strongly encourage you to read the information contained in this link regarding using aluminium cased Blaser ammo in open bolt subguns. VERY BAD IDEA! http://www.afte.org/announcements/CCIopenboltwarning.htm

[Brian Ski]

Originally posted by Vegas SMG
I'd strongly encourage you to read the information contained in this link regarding using aluminium cased Blaser ammo in open bolt subguns. VERY BAD IDEA! http://www.afte.org/announcements/CCIopenboltwarning.htm

I would agree with this... I have shot some Wolf steel and they had bulges in the case.... I think with any alum case they would have blown right out... Like it was said open bolts are rought on cases...

I would run steel case but would stay away from the alum...

[dawg180]

Aluminum cased Blazer will not function well in any pistol caliber longarm in my experiences, and I would not recommend it unless you like clearing jams on a regular basis!

[TulsaGunGuy]

I too have read the CCI warnings. However, I can get CCI Blazer 9mm aluminum for $3.85 a box of 50. This is cheaper than I can reload.

So, despite the warnings I decided to give it a try. I have a full-auto Vector full size Uzi and usually use 40 round mags. I loaded up a few and shot them. I had no problems at all. In fact, I have shoot almost 10,000 of the aluminum cased 9mm through my Uzi with no problems.

This is not an endorsement or recommendation to violate the manufactures warnings. I’m just sharing my own experience.

[grendelbane]

The aluminum cases do not work well in a blowback action. There are some exceptions, such as the .32 auto, but these cases were designed primarily for blowback actions. The 9mm Blazer will not work my 9MM AR-15, for example.

The AR gobbles up Wolf, however.

It has to do with the co-efficient of friction between various metals. Brass slides better against steel than aluminium does.

[cvasqu03]

wouldn't reloading the steel cased ammo wear out your dies?

[grendelbane]

The steel used in Wolf cases is quite soft compared to the steel used to make sizing dies, and much, much softer than the tungsten carbide dies that most of us use.

Yes, eventually, I am sure, you could possibly wear out a sizing die. This fate will also eventually happen with brass cases.

I wouldn't bother reloading steel cases myself. Their life is quite short compared to brass cases. I think that their main virtue is their economy, and the fact that you can pick them up with a strong magnet.

Still, if some one insists on reloading Wolf cases I see no problem with the practice.

[drw]

The CCI Blazer sold at my local Wal-Mart is brass cased. Been that way for about six months now.

[tommygun2000]

Originally posted by cvasqu03
wouldn't reloading the steel cased ammo wear out your dies?
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No, the dies are much harder than the soft steel casings. There is also a coating of lacquer or polymer depending on which Wolf you have that provides a barrier from steel on steel contact.