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    If you take a beverage can, aluminum soda or beer, cut the middle out so you end up with a flat square of aluminum and cut a 1/4" strip and fold it up to 4-6 times on itself you can stick it under the disconnector it will give you the desired effect. Firing on the pull of the trigger and again on the release of the trigger. The aluminum you put under the disconnector has to be played with. I have found that 5-6 folds and flatten out after each fold works in every AK. There is a video on youtube about it and where I learned it from. This guy was going to produce a device similar to what I'm talking about and contacted the
    Feds on it but was informed it is illegal, so he made a video showing how easy it is to make from aluminum strip.
    I don't advocate any illegal activity, a novel tip though.

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    I am the one who assigned my patents to Fostech, and received the BATF FTB approval letter for the trigger. My approval letter is on Fostech's website. I have been at the SHOT show the last two years with Fostech, that being said I am not a part of the company beyond the licensing agreement. They are definitely planning on introducing an AK-47 version. Fostech had one (AK-47 ECHO) on display at SHOT 2018 in the new products area. No photography allowed, so I did not even get a picture of it, but it looked very nice and well executed from the exterior. The last I heard, they were hoping to be in production 4th quarter 2018. Some of the ECHOs did have issues, mostly the earlier ones, the QC has improved greatly, issues are rarer now. I have personally installed around 20 in friends and family's rifles, had one I had to send back, that was very early in the production.

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    WTF is a binary trigger ?

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    A trigger that fires on the pull and release.

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    Fostech updated on their site that their ak binary trigger release has been pushed back to the end of the year.

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    Glad I don't have a preorder.

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    Getting close to the end of the year........
    Last edited by 89lx; 10-27-2019 at 01:41 AM.

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    ATF has banned bump stocks and require them to be turned in or destroyed with no compensation. What make you guys think they won't do the same with binary triggers?

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    A year from now, get back to me and let me know what the atf's success rate of confiscation is.

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    A year from now, get back with me on whether or not the ban holds up in courts. I doubt it will.

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    Franklin started taking pre-orders on their AK version in Oct, with a first quarter 2019 scheduled ship date. Looks like they've been selling binaries for HK, CZ, and B&T for a while. Haven't heard how well the work.

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    Watched a couple videos on CZ and the B&T, looks like the normal BFS hammer follow issues.

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    Fostech has a couple of ak echo vids up on you tube now. Also saying they will start shipping end of February and early March to those who are on the wait list.

    Edited to add (Feb 22, 2019): Fostech now saying the release of their AK Echo is scheduled for release at the end of the fourth quarter of 2019.
    I guess they ran into some serious issues somewhere with getting this trigger out.
    Last edited by BlackBelt; 02-21-2019 at 09:49 PM.

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    Talked to Fostech at Knob Creek. They said that they will be shipping in December, for sure. They believe it will work in a Saiga 12. That's music to my ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 600rpmkrinkov View Post
    Talked to Fostech at Knob Creek. They said that they will be shipping in December, for sure. They believe it will work in a Saiga 12. That's music to my ears.
    Is there any difference that you or anyone here between the VEPR12 and the Saiga12 trigger group? I would assume that if it would work on the Saiga12, it would also work for the VEPR12. I couldn't find anything on the interwebs showing any differences, and Carolinashootersupply and others sell VEPR12/Saiga12 trigger replacement with the same part #. No 12 gauge applications I see for Franklin Armory. Not too sure the price on a binary trigger justifies the utility or fun factor on a 12 gauge though. I can pull the trigger on my VEPR faster than I can control it.... LOL!!!!!! Time for a VFG I guess!!!

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    On a V12, the only difference is, it came in with trigger in the standard config.

    IF binary triggers are your cup of tea, it should fit a properly converted S12 or a V12.

    I'll take a hard pass on binary. I prefer machine guns that were born machine guns, not ones that "identify" as machine guns...

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    Well, they didn't start shipping in December. Wonder how much heartburn the Origin SBV issue is causing them?

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    Probably not much. They are pushing everything back on the owners. They are having owners ship the SBV's back @ owners cost, requiring everything be shipped back even if you wanted a replacement full sized Origin 12. Hell, they even state that it'll take 6-8 months to replace. There weren't that many SBV's sold, so gotta wonder why the wait. Overall impression, they could give a damn less. Personally, I wouldn't trust anything coming from Fostech at this point.

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    It's really a shame that the ATF is super picky about triggers that function in a binary fashion, but aren't made in a way they would preffer. It's really quite easy to make an AK binary trigger out of something like a G2 trigger with no permanent mods just using a shim. Nope, we have to buy expensive and overly complicated triggers...

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