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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother_Evil View Post
    I'm interested in the specifics of why not instead of "you should"....Scott
    I really like the patina on my PS 10/9 and the originality of it.
    It even has the old style trigger with the plunger/spring and cast bolt.

    The hole is a deal breaker.
    I'm wondering why you couldn't use the existing holes where the wire stock slides in & out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Bath View Post
    I'm wondering why you couldn't use the existing holes where the wire stock slides in & out?
    Axis point highly unfavorable.

    Would pinch and not operate smoothly compared to the Task style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cat Bath View Post
    I really like the patina on my PS 10/9 and the originality of it.
    It even has the old style trigger with the plunger/spring and cast bolt.

    The hole is a deal breaker.
    I'm wondering why you couldn't use the existing holes where the wire stock slides in & out?
    I see your point here, I don't think I would like to drill the hole in my PS M10/45, but I also have two Jersey Arms Commando Avengers(M10/45 clones) that I bought as stripped receivers that I have no problem with drilling the hole into. I would have to wait until an M10 version comes out of course. I don't see my M11/9 as something special since there are so many of them out there. I would probably drill the hole in my M11/9 for the M11/15 upper and keep the buffer tube/stock installed when I change uppers. It would be a bit of a pain to unbolt the buffer tube/stock just to put a different stock on it for my 9MM uppers.

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    To the couple of guys to which this thread is addressed to, thank you for taking the time and opinions. Since my guns have holes, I just wondered about those that wouldn't.

    Scott

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    I don't necessarily like it, but I think of it this way. The amount of "NIB M11/9 Collectors" I've seen in person is exactly zero. The guys who want NIB pay a bit more because they want it in "good condition" before they shoot it. They don't care about it being collectible. I've seen many guys pay $1000 more because it came with a Lage upper. To many guys, the ability to shoot 5.56 is a big sales pitch. That upper may put 11/9's in a higher tier (they're already the most desired for a lot of folks.) If it really is compatible with that many AR parts, it could potentially put it above the AC556 in terms of "cheap 556" guns. You've got a 'poor' mans M16 now.

    So you can't exactly look at it as a 9mm subgun anymore, as the upper bridges the gap and puts it on the radar for guys who want M-16s but don't want to pay that price.

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    NOPE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skoda View Post
    Question for those that already have a hole in the receiver - When you are firing with an upper that doesn't use the hole do you get dirt or oil coming out of the hole and into your face?
    The stock adapter I use seals the hole off

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac11FA View Post
    The stock adapter I use seals the hole off
    +1 I have had the same experience, although I don't shoot my MAC style RRs with a can. I have SD guns and a HK sear for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boomer535 View Post
    I see your point here, I don't think I would like to drill the hole in my PS M10/45, but I also have two Jersey Arms Commando Avengers(M10/45 clones) that I bought as stripped receivers that I have no problem with drilling the hole into. I would have to wait until an M10 version comes out of course. I don't see my M11/9 as something special since there are so many of them out there. I would probably drill the hole in my M11/9 for the M11/15 upper and keep the buffer tube/stock installed when I change uppers. It would be a bit of a pain to unbolt the buffer tube/stock just to put a different stock on it for my 9MM uppers.
    Your JAWS are a lot rarer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaujo View Post
    Your JAWS are a lot rarer!
    Rarity doesn't make them more valuable. There are twice the number of M11/NINE RRs than all M10 RRs combined, yet all would agree that the M11/NINE has the highest market value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brother_Evil View Post
    Rarity doesn't make them more valuable. There are twice the number of M11/NINE RRs than all M10 RRs combined, yet all would agree that the M11/NINE has the highest market value.

    Scott
    Is that because they're lighter, or because of the massive number of available uppers and accessories?

    Once Lage offers the 5.56 upper for M10, I have a feeling all Mac 10s are going up in value and will be as high as M11/9s.

    Having fired an SWD m11/9, I wasn't thrilled with the build quality enough to buy it. It felt as shoddy as the Cobray, "Leinad" M11 semi I had many years ago.

    I do wish I'd snapped an M11a1 380 up at 3200 a few yrs ago. I like the small design and ridiculous rate of fire...

    In comparison to the M11/9, the M10 is a monster, and built like a tank.

    That said, a "TASK" hole does not bother me at all. These guns are for shootin', not collectin'.
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    uzi already has a hole in the back. cant see it when the stock is attached.

    no big deal to make a hole in the back of m11/nine

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    That's why I purchased a second M11/9. It will be dedicated for the M11/15 upper. And no, I don't have a problem with the hole if it will give me a poor man's M-16.

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