Instead of being "illegal" or a SBR at one time could it just have a pistol length upper installed?
In the photo it looks to have a barrel shroud thingy but we don't know it's length and it very well could be a full 16" barrel in there.
I personally think it's a really cool piece and I'd snap it up if it were available to me. I've been wanting to start collecting old open bolt semis for a while now.
Probably had a prototype arm brace.
Don't worry, be happy!
Putting a pistol upper on a gun that was manufactured as a rifle makes it an SBR. even without a stock.Originally Posted by Deerhurst
Makes it an AOW, since it is not designed to be fired from the shoulder.
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No. It makes it an SBR. look at the definition of SBR in the NFA. If you take a firearm that was manufactured as a rifle and shorten the barrel below 16", it is an SBR, even without a stock.
Yeah, if you look at the definition, it says it has to be intended to be fired from the shoulder, just like I said.
NFA Firearms: In A World Of Compromise, Some Don't.
Do we know it wasn't originally transferred or built as a rifle vs a pistol? I havnt seen any proof either way. Could very well be a pistol especially with what folks have been saying about the stock and how it shouldn't be able to accept one.
Not fully correct. Look at the Thompson Contender.
I do believe those are now "other" when transferred.
Many of these came with the Button for stock but without the "cuts/knotches" to accept it.
There is no pic of the rear to see....less there was.
There were different serial# prefix's......one is/was still legal in Cali...... Hence the Large difference in price of some of these
No it doesnt.
If you take a rifle and chop off the stock and chop the barrel below 16", its not a pistol. Its not an AOW. Its an SBR.(3) a rifle having a barrel or barrels of
less than 16 inches in length; (4) a weapon made from a rifle if such weapon as modified has an overall
length of less than 26 inches or a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length;
7)The term “rifle” means a weapon designed or redesigned, made or remade, and intended to be fired from the shoulder and designed or redesigned and made or remade to use the energy of an explosive to fire only a single projectile through a rifled bore for each single pull of the trigger.
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The serial numbers are different for the Open bolt carbine version and or the model is different than the pistol versions (example, the serial number would be SAC*** for the carbine version and SAP*** for the pistol version. Some just had the model prefix different and not on the serial number though, either way you could tell).Many of these came with the Button for stock but without the "cuts/knotches" to accept it.
There is no pic of the rear to see....less there was.
There were different serial# prefix's......one is/was still legal in Cali...... Hence the Large difference in price of some of these
I’m 99.9% sure they never came with the buttons for the stocks on the SAP versions, unless modified.
Example below of serial number for carbine.
https://www.gunsamerica.com/93778154...l-Number-3.htm
https://www.google.com/search?client...e-gws-wiz-serpA firearm, as defined by 26 U.S.C. 5845(a)(4), is made when a
handgun or other weapon with an overall length of less than 26 inches, or a barrel or
barrels of less than 16 inches in length, is assembled or produced from a weapon
originally assembled or produced only as a rifle.
Shit, we're both wrong.
Its not an SBR. Its not an AOW. Its a "weapon made from a rifle"
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/can-...tering-firearm
Lol
Well I certainly agree it is made from a rifle!
NFA Firearms: In A World Of Compromise, Some Don't.
Been through several
Many had the button.....no cuts for stock. Why they had the button..idk they just did and were 1 owner guns. Perhaps the serial # goes on last ?
As to ser.#.....2 or more ways it was done. Some had sap as part of # some did Not.
cali only banned the "1" on the original hit list from whenever in the 90's
Its probably been updated and no longer matters....It was a thing in 2010 ish and may still be.
Just looks like a gun to me.
What is this classification got to do with the value of the gun.
It's been bought and sold many times with those slots and I've seen them on at least 1/2 a dozen other OB MAC's on GB over the years.
what slots?
is there a pic missing?
root. Classification has a LOT to do with the Value of the gun. NFA guns and semi's are Valued TOTALLY different.
This one on gunbroker is listed higher, but he may just be an optimist idk. https://www.gunbroker.com/item/885271076
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