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    Quote Originally Posted by strobro32 View Post
    I think America should start seriously considering dismantling the BATFE. It's a redundant federal agency that could be better managed under a number of newer, better managed, existing agencies. After all, it was originally an excuse to retain employees of our government prohibition era entitlement programs. We can do better.
    +1 to that!

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    Quote Originally Posted by strobro32 View Post
    I think America should start seriously considering dismantling the BATFE. It's a redundant federal agency that could be better managed under a number of newer, better managed, existing agencies. After all, it was originally an excuse to retain employees of our government prohibition era entitlement programs. We can do better.
    + 2 to that!

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    Shall not infringe


    Pretty clear language. The sixth already ruled Bump stocks are not machine guns. These people, like many others I know of, are a complete joke. Just as likely to be up next: the barrel is the gun... no, the trigger. No, no... wait for it... this is what happens when you abandon truth.

    In a bombshell ruling delivered this week, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 6th Circuit not only denied Chevron deference to Trump's bump stock ban, but held that "Chevron deference categorically does not apply" in the criminal law context. The 6th Circuit then took its own look at the text of the federal machine gun ban and decided that "a bump stock does not fall within the statutory definition of a machine gun." In sum, Trump's attempt to impose gun control via executive fiat lost big.

    "It is not the role of the executive—particularly the unelected administrative state—to dictate" the terms of criminal law, the 6th Circuit maintained. "Granting the executive the right both to determine a criminal statute's meaning and to enforce that same criminal statute poses a severe risk to individual liberty." According to the 6th Circuit, that risk is one of the reasons why judges have no business tipping the scales in favor of the executive in such cases. "Entrusting the interpretation of criminal laws to the judiciary, and not the executive," the court said, "mitigates that risk and protects against any potential abuses of government power."
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    Man, I'm glad to hear what you folks are saying. Last time I said anything like this on this site people just all up my ass about it which I thought was pretty weird from a bunch of NFA folks.


    I saw a blurb on the latest 6th statement over in the MG section on ARFCOM. I'm glad to see a court is upholding the laws.

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    ATF should be dismantled, NFA, GCA, Hughes Amendment, & 922r should all be repealed!
    But I should be 7 feet tall and rich as a king. I figure the latter is more likely to happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sniperdoc View Post
    ATF should be dismantled, NFA, GCA, Hughes Amendment, & 922r should all be repealed!
    But I should be 7 feet tall and rich as a king. I figure the latter is more likely to happen.
    "Should be" and "will be" are 2 very different things. ATF "should be" dismantled. The NFA "will be" an infringement on our rights until it is eliminated. The Tenko Adapter "should be" allowed over the counter. The ATF "will be" acting under their own puppet master.

    I "should be" saving money. I "will be" buying more ammo.

    If you are my stature, 7ft tall will always be a pipe dream. I do have royal blood with a french duke somewhere down the rabbit hole. He fled France during one.of the time they were beheading the royals. It's pretty diluted now. Maybe I should petition for reparations?

    922r is hardly abided by anyways. It might as well be dead to everyone but manufacturers. I doubt most people know it even exists. I know plenty of manufacturers/builders ignore it. You know why it was implemented, right?

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