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    Does this M11 A1 RPB Cobray 380 look legit?


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    No....it doesn't...

    Look at the markings, and welds...especially on the feed ramp and the top rear of the receiver in front of the sight/back plate. The backplate is incorrect as well. The "carrier" for the FCG is welded incorrectly, and the magwell cutout is cockeyed in the receiver its self.....

    Homebrew gun meant to deceive....

    Here's the exact same gun when it was for sale earlier
    https://www.abidearmory.com/cobray-m...istol-380-acp/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Villafuego View Post
    No....it doesn't...

    Look at the markings, and welds...especially on the feed ramp and the top rear of the receiver in front of the sight/back plate. The backplate is incorrect as well. The "carrier" for the FCG is welded incorrectly, and the magwell cutout is cockeyed in the receiver its self.....

    Homebrew gun meant to deceive....

    Here's the exact same gun when it was for sale earlier
    https://www.abidearmory.com/cobray-m...istol-380-acp/
    Looks like a kit gun from the 1980s shotgun news
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    Love to see a FOIA request on the serial#

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaujo View Post
    Love to see a FOIA request on the serial#
    Nothing to FOIA. Title I home made gun.
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    That is Not Correct.

    Lots of hmmmmm.

    Way high priced for whatever it is.

    Nice mags though.

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    SWD Emblem on a RPB gun.

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    Fraudulent markings and the seller is in the weeds based on the fraudulent description.

    Hope it never sells. Hard to fix a junk piece of metal as far gone as it is. Not worth it ($350).

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    I like the df cmp style mags on what should have a skinny magwell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    Nothing to FOIA. Title I home made gun.
    I don't see how that could be covered under the open bolt exclusion. Gotta be repro
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    I’ve always wondered how the open bolt semi rule for home builds could ever be enforced.

    I assume the 1982 RPB Court decision covered ALL future builds of open bolt semis, and while RPB and other licenced manufacturers were screwed, what stopped these being built in your garage after the ban?

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    prove it was built after the ban?

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    I ran across a home built open bolt semi 380 a couple of years ago. The only markings on it was electric pen engraved "1982". It was being sold by a private individual as a consignment at local shop gun shop. The owner said he bought it from the maker and the maker told him, it was made from a kit before the cutoff. There was no way to verify it. It was cheap and I almost bought it. I chickened out because of comments from some people here. I kinda wish I bought it.

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    Other than being able to prove the kit was purchased and the receiver parts were purchased after the cutoff I don't think there is a way to prove any OB gun was built after the ban if it's a home brew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timgunfreak View Post
    I’ve always wondered how the open bolt semi rule for home builds could ever be enforced.

    I assume the 1982 RPB Court decision covered ALL future builds of open bolt semis, and while RPB and other licenced manufacturers were screwed, what stopped these being built in your garage after the ban?

    How would ATF ever
    prove it was built after the ban?
    That is why I want to build an open bolt semi only uzi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Member13 View Post
    That is why I want to build an open bolt semi only uzi
    Uh you just screwed yourself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Member13 View Post
    That is why I want to build an open bolt semi only uzi

    Like mine ? They are fun to shoot too....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerhurst View Post
    Other than being able to prove the kit was purchased and the receiver parts were purchased after the cutoff I don't think there is a way to prove any OB gun was built after the ban if it's a home brew.
    I wonder if a Metallurgist could prove beyond doubt the age of steel and or welds? Steel and/or welds scientifically proved to be no more than 10 years old maximum would likely get you a free ticket to Club Fed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaujo View Post
    Uh you just screwed yourself
    It could have all the screws in it so nothing would be loose. So if it has a blocking bar and all other required features I would love to see what happens. Plus the open bolt ban is not on paper...at least according to the Fudd Busters lawyer (see video 101)

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