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    That "Forgotten Weapons" video of the MAX-11A1/15 would be a lot more interesting with Ian (who is left handed) shooting with one of these OOBs. His initial commentary would probably have to have been bleeped out.

    MHO, YMMV, etc.

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    Technically, these are not out of battery detonations. The bolt is locked (in battery) at the time of the failure. The bolt is seized forward with the extractor bent outward, locked into the barrel extension, again, evidence that the bolt was locked. The over pressure in the bolt carrier causes it to fail, like any other AR bolt carrier, and it splits along the magazine grooves on the bottom. This causes downward pressure on the magazine and the bullets in it, usually blowing out the magazine or the guts of the magazine out of the bottom. Parts of the bolt carrier group do not fly out of the gun.
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    Range report: Took several PMags filled with Lake City green tip out today with my stock 11/15a1.

    Zero failures. Ran like a beast. Demolished some water jugs @ 50 yds. Nailed steel targets with ease. A mag of 55gr Lake City also gave zero problems.

    One interesting note: We had a Troy polymer mag lying around, and it ran faster than the PMags. Comparing both (in my upper), the Troy mag sits slightly higher, and the ammo is aligned slightly higher on the feed ramps of the barrel ext. It appears the rounds chambered with slightly less resistance from the Troy.

    We also used RemOil today, which is far thinner than the Castrol I broke the upper in with. I will use RemOil in the Lage uppers from here on out.

    Regardless, hundreds of 5.56 green tips down-range with zero hiccups today! Quite the rush. We also shot 9mm from the Max 11a1 mkii upper, via 30-rd Zmags. No failures.

    Richard Lage makes some absolutely killer gear. I'll be grabbing new internals and some 9mm barrels from Lage as soon as I can.

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    I sent my damaged upper to Richard and he sent me back a beautiful reconditioned upper. I can't say enough good things about his generosity and helpfulness. Thank you Richard!



    The brass from the Max-11A1/15 was much cleaner compared to the brass from the other AR15s at the table. It was %100 perfect.

    I sure did miss this thing while it was back in AZ. I'm glad Richard was able to return it better than I expected. Great product, great service.
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    I shot 920 rounds today. It ran perfectly. I'm going to test the 18" barrel next week.

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    Lage is the gold standard in quality products and customer service. I have a bunch of their products and have never once regretted a single purchase. It’s impressive to say the least. I believe it is also why M11s are going for close to uzi prices.

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    After this morning, I have 2K+ rounds through the new upper with the 10.5" and 20" barrels. It has been running 100% reliable. I'm going to try to install the QRB Cry Havoc system again for testing next weeked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strobro32 View Post
    After this morning, I have 2K+ rounds through the new upper with the 10.5" and 20" barrels. It has been running 100% reliable. I'm going to try to install the QRB Cry Havoc system again for testing next weeked.
    What mags have you been running? PMAGS and 30 round Colt mags have been 100^% reliable in mine, but Beta c-Mags are no go. They cannot keep up with the ROF. The first round fires fine, but the next round noses into the mag tower, seriously setting the bullet back into the case.

    Anyone else have C-Mag experiences to report? I'll be trying a Surefire 60 round box mag, and a PMAG D-60 soon. Thoughts about these?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyE View Post
    Anyone else have C-Mag experiences to report? I'll be trying a Surefire 60 round box mag, and a PMAG D-60 soon. Thoughts about these?
    I'm waiting on my number for the Max11/15. I have a Beta Mag, so I'll be trying that out.

    I'm planning to get the ARRM version, so I should be able to run it pretty slow if needed.

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    Beta-C mags must be dry and I would do graphite two or three times during the loading process most every time that I load the mag. I would highly recommend a LULA loader. It is much easier on the feed tower. The stripper clip loader beats on the plastic feed lips of the tower. Once the inside of the feed lips get worn, double feeds are much more likely. I have never had a problem with the Beta-C keeping up when it was clean and had plenty of graphite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyE View Post
    What mags have you been running?
    I've been using 30 rd aluminum. Pmags, Lancer and an Armatac drum. I would like to get a D-60 mag.

    Be very careful with bullet setbacks. A bullet setback led to over pressure and blew my Max-11A1/15 carrier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&S Conversions View Post
    Beta-C mags must be dry and I would do graphite two or three times during the loading process most every time that I load the mag. I would highly recommend a LULA loader. It is much easier on the feed tower. The stripper clip loader beats on the plastic feed lips of the tower. Once the inside of the feed lips get worn, double feeds are much more likely. I have never had a problem with the Beta-C keeping up when it was clean and had plenty of graphite.

    Scott
    Thanks for your guidance. I opened the brand new mag and dusted its guts with molybdenum disulfide powder. Too many years of experience maintaining things operating in salt water, so I cannot bear to put carbon (graphite) anywhere near aluminum. Galvanic corrosion is an ugly thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by strobro32 View Post
    I've been using 30 rd aluminum. Pmags, Lancer and an Armatac drum. I would like to get a D-60 mag.

    Be very careful with bullet setbacks. A bullet setback led to over pressure and blew my Max-11A1/15 carrier.
    The P-Mags and aluminum mags, 20 and 30 round varieties, work great. The D-60 is loaded and ready to go for the next range trip. Boy, loading that thing is arduous. I am thinking about cutting up a polymer 80 and locking it in a vise so I can plug in the D-60 for easier loading.

    I try to be very aware of setback, catching it in time in the past. This pic is from the other day. Boy, am I glad I checked, rather than letting those two (flanked by normal rounds) ram home and lit off. I saw your pics in the other thread, WOW. Glad you're OK.

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    I have a D60 that runs great in a 11/15 so far. Total PITA to load for sure though. Most people that I let load it themselves give up way before it gets anywhere close to 60 rounds.

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    Anyone know if you can use a MagPump to load D-60 drums?

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    You can, but it starts to dent the rounds before you can completely fill the magazine. About 2/3rds full.
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