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    Which President Had Bumpstocks Banned?

    These were posted on another thread:

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    ^^^ Which president outlawed the slidefire? "Barry?" ^^^

    I recall ammo being rather cheap, aside from the Sandy Hook scare. And you could get a complete upper receiver for $199 shipped back then.
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    Trump didnít but the atf did under his watch. Which was overturned.
    Since these were in someone else's thread. I don't want to derail that. That is not how I remember how that went down. After the festival shooting in Las Vegas where the gunman used bumpstocks on the rifles that he used, Trump said that he was going to have the ATF "look into" bumpstocks. Here is a video of Trump saying "bumpstocks will be gone" https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/polit...ban/index.html by Executive Order. He is no friend of the Second Amendment in my book.

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    Yep, and Reagan in 86

    Even though im Red, seems we ”law bidders” are being punished by our own

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    Correct. Trump is not a friend of 2A.

    FYI, the ATF ruling was not overturned. It was upheld.

    Google it.


    EDIT: Don't forget GHW Bush's "Assault" Weapons Ban...


    1989:

    PERMANENT IMPORT BAN ON ASSAULT RIFLES
    By Paula YostJuly 8, 1989
    The Bush administration yesterday imposed a permanent import ban on 43 types of semiautomatic assault rifles, including the Chinese-made AK47 and Israeli-made Uzi carbine. Stephen E. Higgins, director of the Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), said the government had studied 50 types of imported assault rifles and decided that all but seven were not being used for sport as required by the Gun Control Act of 1968.
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    Which poison do we want to die from

    Sad times

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&S Conversions View Post
    These were posted on another thread:





    Since these were in someone else's thread. I don't want to derail that. That is not how I remember how that went down. After the festival shooting in Las Vegas where the gunman used bumpstocks on the rifles that he used, Trump said that he was going to have the ATF "look into" bumpstocks. Here is a video of Trump saying "bumpstocks will be gone" https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/02/polit...ban/index.html by Executive Order. He is no friend of the Second Amendment in my book.

    Scott
    Yes it happened under his watch. It was a sacrificial lamb. The atf devised language that seemed to the laymen to be legit.

    We know it wasnít.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M10 View Post
    Correct. Trump is not a friend of 2A.

    FYI, the ATF ruling was not overturned. It was upheld.

    Google it.


    EDIT: Don't forget GHW Bush's "Assault" Weapons Ban...


    1989:

    PERMANENT IMPORT BAN ON ASSAULT RIFLES
    By Paula YostJuly 8, 1989
    The Bush administration yesterday imposed a permanent import ban on 43 types of semiautomatic assault rifles, including the Chinese-made AK47 and Israeli-made Uzi carbine. Stephen E. Higgins, director of the Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), said the government had studied 50 types of imported assault rifles and decided that all but seven were not being used for sport as required by the Gun Control Act of 1968.
    That’s incorrect. His son was an advocate for the hearing protection act. An ill advised strategy that would
    Have been better for administrative procedural changes.


    Moreover:

    Gorsuch
    Barrett
    Kavenaugh

    It was 6-3 not 4-5
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    Quote Originally Posted by hfoster223 View Post
    Yep, and Reagan in 86

    Even though im Red, seems we ”law bidders” are being punished by our own
    Reagan got the FOPA. It declared by statute that guns are an individual right.

    We all know that they illegally attached the 1986 provision to the bill by voice vote that didn’t pass. But it was written as though it did. Reagan signed it, but in the main it was a huge benefit to gun owners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M10 View Post
    Correct. Trump is not a friend of 2A.

    FYI, the ATF ruling was not overturned. It was upheld.

    Google it.


    EDIT: Don't forget GHW Bush's "Assault" Weapons Ban...


    1989:

    PERMANENT IMPORT BAN ON ASSAULT RIFLES
    By Paula YostJuly 8, 1989
    The Bush administration yesterday imposed a permanent import ban on 43 types of semiautomatic assault rifles, including the Chinese-made AK47 and Israeli-made Uzi carbine. Stephen E. Higgins, director of the Treasury Department's Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF), said the government had studied 50 types of imported assault rifles and decided that all but seven were not being used for sport as required by the Gun Control Act of 1968.
    Google
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    Appeals Court Revives Challenge to Bump Stock Ban

    A federal appeals court has revived a legal challenge to the Trump administration's ban on firearm bump stocks.




    Appeals court revives challenge to bump stock ban

    A federal appeals court has revived a legal challenge to the Trump administration's ban on firearm bump stocks

    ABC News
    NEW ORLEANS -- A legal challenge to the Trump administration’s ban on bump stocks — devices attached to semiautomatic firearms so that a shooter can fire multiple rounds with a single trigger pull — was revived Thursday by a federal appeals court.

    A panel of the 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in New Orleans had upheld the ban in December, affirming a ruling by a Texas-based federal judge. But an order issued Thursday stated that a majority of the 17-member court had voted to rehear the case. The challenge was brought by a Texas gun owner and is backed by gun rights groups including the National Rifle Association.

    The 5th Circuit covers Louisiana, Mississippi and Texas. Three other circuit appeals courts have so far rejected challenges to the ban. The Supreme Court has been asked to take up the issue but had not said whether it will do so as of Thursday.

    The ban was instituted in 2019 after a sniper in Las Vegas used bump stock-equipped weapons in the massacre of dozens of concertgoers in 2017.

    The 5th Circuit order came on the same day that the Supreme Court issued a ruling expanding gun rights, striking down a New York law and ruling that Americans have a Second Amendment right to carry firearms in public for self-defense.

    At issue in the bump stock challenge was not the Second Amendment but whether bump stocks qualify as illegal “machine guns” under federal law. The rule banning the devices issued by the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said that they are.

    According to the ATF, bump stocks harness the recoil energy of a semiautomatic firearm so that a trigger “resets and continues firing without additional physical manipulation of the trigger by the shooter.”

    Opponents of the ATF rule argue that the trigger itself functions multiple times when a bump stock is used and that, therefore, they do not qualify as automatic weapons.

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    My question is: 1/ why the republicans went along with the new red flag bs, but more importantly 2/ why did the democrats give the gop cover? The gop can say “we passed a gun control bill!”

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    Its all about being re-elected / elected
    We all know thereís enough laws
    How many were violated before the first shot in uvalde
    or anywhere else, canít stop evil
    Lawbob, you got wound up
    I think making senators/ representatives money less lucrative might help
    I vote for lawbob, at least he gives a $&@@
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    Honestly without real term limits, 3 terms max and your out... 99.9% of all these scumbags shall always sell us out "We The People." None of them can or should ever be trusted period IMHO.

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    Well, the court taking it up again is not "overturned," but at least there's hope. Honestly, I prefer FA to bump firing, but the ban is dumb nonetheless.

    As far as American politics, I'm a tad less hopeful.

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