This cant be good lol

TobyHKnut · 11-03-2009, 01:45 PM

I just noticed lastnight, everytime I charge my AR (colt SP1 lower and colt factory Bolt) I get a very very light strike on the primer!! Now I am not sure if this just started or I just never noticed it before...hummmm

So basically when i charge my weapon...and then end up not shooting it...the top round that was chambered and now removed, has a very light but very noticiable strike mark on the primer.

Any ideas why this may have started happening??

Thx

not really looking for a slam-fire version of this gun lol

CAR-AR-m16 · 11-03-2009, 01:50 PM

All AR's do that due to the floating firing pin. You just never noticed it before.

SPECTRE9MM · 11-03-2009, 02:02 PM

Sounds like the rifle is defective beyond repair. Send it to me and I will make sure that it is propperly disposed of.

Nwcid · 11-03-2009, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TobyHKnut

Any ideas why this may have started happening??

Cause that is how it was designed in the 60's by Stoner. The firing pin is free floating but not heavy enough to set a round off.

TobyHKnut · 11-03-2009, 03:09 PM

COOL

Thx lol Not sure I will pack it up and ship it to you just yet!!! LOL but appreciate the offer

I was hoping I had just never noticed it before, so gald thats the case...

Sweet ~!!!

ateamrob · 11-03-2009, 06:42 PM

perfectly normal with all AR/16 platforms.

when the bolt strips a round the way it chambers causes a very light primer strike.

no worries.

Rob

garandman · 11-03-2009, 08:54 PM

TobyHKnut · 11-03-2009, 11:17 PM

AHhhhhhhhh Well I feel better now and guess I need to pay more attention!!!!!! lol

Thx for the quick and ... as usual ... extremely helpful info you guys always seem to have on the tip of your keyboards!!!!

ClearDark · 11-03-2009, 11:31 PM

Yep, free floating firing pin. I do not care for that myself, but I make it a habit to never chamber the same round twice. Doubt it will go off, but i'd much rather be safe, then sorry.

**coyle311** · 11-04-2009, 05:50 PM

If it makes you nervous, you can get a titanium firning pin. They're lighter, so they don't impact the primer as hard when they are striking from inertia alone. However, as everyone else said, it really is a non issue.

**nayo** · 11-04-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by coyle311

If it makes you nervous, you can get a titanium firning pin. They're lighter, so they don't impact the primer as hard when they are striking from inertia alone. However, as everyone else said, it really is a non issue.

I have friends that have used the Titanium they are pretty much junk they break and believe it or not the also bend.
Stick with the factory firing pin it works.

**kmw1970** · 11-04-2009, 06:52 PM

If it makes you nervous, never think about owning an SKS. Many military firearms have free floating firing pins.

**chili17** · 11-04-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by nayo

I have friends that have used the Titanium they are pretty much junk they break and believe it or not the also bend.
Stick with the factory firing pin it works.

Plus 1

mmilo31 · 11-04-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by kmw1970

If it makes you nervous, never think about owning an SKS. Many military firearms have free floating firing pins.

Yep, my norinco slam fired on me once. I cleaned the living dog snot out of it after that. Scared the crap out of me and luckily didnot get hurt.

**Goat** · 11-04-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ClearDark

but I make it a habit to never chamber the same round twice.

So you throw away any cartridge you don't shoot?

D-boy · 11-04-2009, 07:35 PM

I read on another site that rhymes with "barfbomb" that a police department was having failure to fire with TAP ammo. It was supposedly traced to rechambering ammo over and over, which broke up the primer compound cake in the primer. Just to be safe, after I chamber the same round a few times I strip it and throw it in the Beta dump box. Never had one fail to fire, though.

Also heard they are more likely to slam fire after multiple chamberings. Not sure if that's true either but they can slam fire from my Beta all they want.

ClearDark · Yesterday, 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goat

So you throw away any cartridge you don't shoot?

Perhaps you misunderstood; I do not rechamber the same round. I will cycle it back into the magazine. That way when I load the firearm for home duty im taking extra caution in prevending a ND. When shooting, or at a range, it doesnt matter if it goes off then. Better safe than sorry.

hagar · Yesterday, 12:01 PM

No worries unless you are using winchester small rifle primers. Do a web search, they are responsible for a lot of slamfires.

Surly · Yesterday, 01:33 PM

Make sure you don't have the early profile firing pin. If you do, buy a replacement. Check this: http://www.fulton-armory.com/SlamFire3.htm

**Goat** · Yesterday, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ClearDark

I will cycle it back into the magazine. That way when I load the firearm for home duty im taking extra caution in prevending a ND.

Oh. Gotcha.

Your technique being different from mine caused the confusion.

11-03-2009, 01:45 PM	#1
TobyHKnut Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 91 iTrader: 9 / 100%	This cant be good lol I just noticed lastnight, everytime I charge my AR (colt SP1 lower and colt factory Bolt) I get a very very light strike on the primer!! Now I am not sure if this just started or I just never noticed it before...hummmm So basically when i charge my weapon...and then end up not shooting it...the top round that was chambered and now removed, has a very light but very noticiable strike mark on the primer. Any ideas why this may have started happening?? Thx not really looking for a slam-fire version of this gun lol

11-03-2009, 01:50 PM	#2
CAR-AR-m16 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 263 iTrader: 8 / 100%	All AR's do that due to the floating firing pin. You just never noticed it before. __________________ How a politician stands on the Second Amendment tells you how he or she views you as an individual… as a trustworthy and productive citizen, or as part of an unruly crowd that needs to be lorded over, controlled, supervised, and taken care of.

11-03-2009, 06:42 PM	#6
ateamrob Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: MA Posts: 765 iTrader: 7 / 100%	perfectly normal with all AR/16 platforms. when the bolt strips a round the way it chambers causes a very light primer strike. no worries. Rob __________________ "Chuck Norris Counted To Infinity..... Twice"

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coyle311 UZI Talk Life Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Missouri Posts: 881 iTrader: 19 / 100%	If it makes you nervous, you can get a titanium firning pin. They're lighter, so they don't impact the primer as hard when they are striking from inertia alone. However, as everyone else said, it really is a non issue. __________________ Got a brand new semi-automatic weapon with a laser sight. Oh, I'm praying that somebody tries to break in here tonight. - Weird Al Yankovic, Trigger Happy

11-03-2009, 02:02 PM	#3
SPECTRE9MM Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Mpls, Minnesota Posts: 47 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Sounds like the rifle is defective beyond repair. Send it to me and I will make sure that it is propperly disposed of.

11-03-2009, 03:09 PM	#5
TobyHKnut Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 91 iTrader: 9 / 100%	COOL Thx lol Not sure I will pack it up and ship it to you just yet!!! LOL but appreciate the offer I was hoping I had just never noticed it before, so gald thats the case... Sweet ~!!!

11-03-2009, 11:17 PM	#8
TobyHKnut Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 91 iTrader: 9 / 100%	AHhhhhhhhh Well I feel better now and guess I need to pay more attention!!!!!! lol Thx for the quick and ... as usual ... extremely helpful info you guys always seem to have on the tip of your keyboards!!!!

11-03-2009, 11:31 PM	#9
ClearDark Registered User Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 63 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Yep, free floating firing pin. I do not care for that myself, but I make it a habit to never chamber the same round twice. Doubt it will go off, but i'd much rather be safe, then sorry.

11-04-2009, 06:52 PM	#12
kmw1970 UZI Talk Supporter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 1,151 iTrader: 14 / 100%	If it makes you nervous, never think about owning an SKS. Many military firearms have free floating firing pins. __________________ Official Zionist Conspirator "If I get shot can I use some of your kit?" "You know you wanna shoot it!" - jarhead jim "Of course the sad reality of the situation is Chuck Norris is sitting at home saying "man I wish I had a 40mm nade launcher so I could be like Jimmy2Times"" -sofltodd

11-04-2009, 07:35 PM	#16
D-boy Registered User Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 362 iTrader: 0 / 0%	I read on another site that rhymes with "barfbomb" that a police department was having failure to fire with TAP ammo. It was supposedly traced to rechambering ammo over and over, which broke up the primer compound cake in the primer. Just to be safe, after I chamber the same round a few times I strip it and throw it in the Beta dump box. Never had one fail to fire, though. Also heard they are more likely to slam fire after multiple chamberings. Not sure if that's true either but they can slam fire from my Beta all they want.

Yesterday, 12:01 PM	#18
hagar Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Columbia, SC Posts: 76 iTrader: 1 / 100%	No worries unless you are using winchester small rifle primers. Do a web search, they are responsible for a lot of slamfires. __________________ The upside down flag is a symbol for a nation in distress. And certainly South Africa is in serious distress!

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Surly Paroled 8/27/05. Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: "Daschle Free" South Dakota Posts: 349 iTrader: 1 / 100%	Make sure you don't have the early profile firing pin. If you do, buy a replacement. Check this: http://www.fulton-armory.com/SlamFire3.htm __________________ An armed civilian is a citizen. A disarmed civilian is a SUBJECT. MCLMM