A couple more hair brain ideas for my Sten

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If you've seen some of my other posts you know that I like to make/modify parts for my Sten in a sometimes questionable attempt to improve it.

One problem of the Sten is the poor magazines that it uses. They are really hard to load and can jam sometimes. I came up with a conversion that uses the Zmags. It works well but they are only slightly better than the Sten mags for loading and the mag release was a range toy affair; works fine but it's not a robust mechanism. I have a 7.62x25 kit that uses PPS-43 magazines. It works well in that caliber so I tried running 9mm in them with no luck. I even made a feed ramp extension without success. The Laidler book talks about a modification that some Americans in Georgia were using to run Sterling magazines. The British replaced the Sten with the Sterling that uses some of the very best magazines. He even gave a rough sketch of the modification but it didn't work. The basic problem is the feed angle of the cartridges. The Sten magazine presents the cartridges at an 8 degree angle and the Sterling presents them at a zero degree angle but the mag well holds the magazines at an 8 degree angle.

I've been sitting on a Sterling parts kit for years waiting for me to do nothing with it so I decided to see if I could make that work some how. I took a spare Sten mag well housing and cut off the mag well part. I then de-brazed the mag well from the Sterling. After a lot of measurements and math I cut it down and welded it to the Sten part. I then took a spare Sten bolt, machined some clearance on the feed side followed by some back and forth with layout dye and grinding to get full clearance for the magazines. Putting it all together it actually runs and runs well. I finally have a Sten that takes magazines that are easy to load with my fingers.

While I was at it I decided to use the front of the Sterling as an extension of the barrel nut. This gives a much better grip and also a better front sight. I use the standard barrel but I now have a front grip that can be fully gripped with an adult hand.

I thought that some of you might find this interesting.Image02.jpgImage03.jpg
 
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I thought that you if anybody would find it interesting.

My only problem is that I have 12 Sterling mags while I have probably 30+ Sten mags. But 12 is enough and as with all of my mods, the registered receiver is untouched so I can always go back to the original set-up.
 
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I thought that you if anybody would find it interesting.

My only problem is that I have 12 Sterling mags while I have probably 30+ Sten mags. But 12 is enough and as all of my mods the registered receiver is untouched so I can always go back to the original set-up.
Yes I love it. I’m always finding new ways to reinvent the wheel. I’ve done something similar to this. I’m working on a Glock mag adapter as we speak.
 

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Yes I love it. I’m always finding new ways to reinvent the wheel. I’ve done something similar to this. I’m working on a Glock mag adapter as we speak.
I'm sure that with a good 3D printer one could come up with a number of variations. They wouldn't last forever but they would be easy enough to make a new one.
 

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Well,...that looks like a kit other STEN owners would be happy to buy, myself included. I already have a functional Sterling, but I still love this. Now the question would be if this is close enough in tolerances to successfully use an OLD ARMS OF IDAHO Sterling suppressor mount kit.
 

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This and your Suomi "nose job" are my personal favorites.

Did you have to open up the magazine port / cutout in the tube itself for the Sterling mag?
 

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This and your Suomi "nose job" are my personal favorites.

Did you have to open up the magazine port / cutout in the tube itself for the Sterling mag?
No, The size of the Sten port was perfect for the Sterling mag. They are very similar in the size of the mag tube so it lined up perfectly. The main 'problem' was to get the depth right so that I got the Sterling mags to go in as far as possible for best feeding. I used the Sterling bolt as a guide for that.

I did have to get a little creative with the plunger that locks the mag well to the receiver. The Sten mag well is 90 degrees to the receiver and the mag well housing tube that it's part of so the plunger goes through both parts at 90 degrees. The Sterling mag well attaches to the mag well housing tube at 82 degrees and that makes the plunger do the same. I didn't want to redrill the hole in the receiver and I wanted to tighten things up there anyhow since the Sten is a little loose which doesn't help feeding and bolt travel. I made the end of the plunger slightly oval on the end and it worked great.
 

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I love all these Frankenbuilds. Such wonderful ingenuity. It's why I love this place.
 

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Have you ever thought about fully converting to a sterling (stenling)? If the serial number is on the actual tube, from what I understand they can use it to build a sterling. There has to be a few mods, most commonly they relocate the cocking handle to match the slot on the sten.
 

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I love all these Frankenbuilds. Such wonderful ingenuity. It's why I love this place.
Me too and it's why I share what I do. I'm not a show off kinda of person but I hope that others will be inspired to do their own things. We can learn from each other.

Strobro I have been inspired very much by some of your MAC mods.

Member komodoj copied my Soumi butt stock mod which is still my favorite. That made me happy to see.
 
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Have you ever thought about fully converting to a sterling (stenling)? If the serial number is on the actual tube, from what I understand they can use it to build a sterling. There has to be a few mods, most commonly they relocate the cocking handle to match the slot on the sten.
I bought it as a registered tube and I had the Sterling parts kit already so I did consider that option very hard. My friend has a Stenling and it's the nicest MG that I've ever fired but I knew that I wanted to do mods and accys and the Sterling is pretty much a one shot deal so I went with the Sten. I'm glad because I've had a lot of fun making/moding different parts for it. I also made a suppressor that screws right on which can't be done with the Sterling.

I've done work on other guns too. I recently converted a SIG P226 stick mag to work in a Beretta 1918/30 which is a neat little 9mm carbine from the 1930's that is hard to find mags for. It worked but I gave it to another guy on the other Thompson forum because he was wanting to make several. I just like doing these things.
 

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Nicely done! It's reminiscent of a Lanchester. A Stanchester? Stenchester?
 

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With the wooden forearm that I made earlier it really looks like a Lanchester or other early European SMG. It hardly looks like a Sten in this configuration.
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Or this Czech SMG (ZK-383):
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Something about wood hand guards and vented barrel shrouds really does it for me. And the tone of the hand guard wood is perfect.
 

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