Anyone getting in on these? Fostech echo!

[komodoj]

Anyone getting in on these triggers, seems to be some really neat YouTube vids and reports on these? Your thoughts?

http://fostechoutdoors.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=15

 

[medphys]

Yep

http://www.uzitalk.com/forums/showt...ory-Binary-Firing-System-better-than-bumpfire

 

[Funner]

No. $479 is not realistic along with the product function and controls. No practical use. If one were to be burning up ammo i would get the soon to release JT grip. I want to say $30. That's affordable. Save your money and buy $450 worth in ammo.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mCCvqv4mihg

 

[medphys]

No. $479 is not realistic along with the product function and controls. No practical use. If one were to be burning up ammo i would get the soon to release JT grip. I want to say $30. That's affordable. Save your money and buy $450 worth in ammo.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mCCvqv4mihg

The TacCon 3mr is down to $275.

 

[Concorde]

Competition is good for the consumer.

I hadn't seen the JT Grip before... that looks like a new approach. However, for pistols, their website says,

"According to the BATF, installing the JT Grip on a pistol under 26 inches will create an AOW which is illegal without proper Form 1 paperwork, and $5 tax stamp. To legally install the JT Grip on an AR 15 or AK 47 “pistol”, the overall length needs to be greater than 26 inches."

He's wrong -- if you're an "unlicensed" INDIVIDUAL, the MAKING tax is still $200 on the Form 1; it is the TRANSFER TAX on an AOW that is the one that's just $5.

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EDIT: Also, they're really not well-suited for rifles... they won't work if you place the rifle stock against your shoulder. A SlideFire or similar stock is better for a rifle application. Pretty cool for pistols, though. I might have to have an AK pistol registered as an AOL and put one of these on it.

 

[TonyM]

There is something much better than all of these coming...

 

[komodoj]

Is it this???

https://media3.giphy.com/media/xIytx7kHpq74c/200w.gif

There is something much better than all of these coming...

 

[TonyM]

Is it this???

https://media3.giphy.com/media/xIytx7kHpq74c/200w.gif

Close...

 

[strobro32]

There is something much better than all of these coming...

There always is.

 

[SecondAmend]

There is something much better than all of these coming...

Repeal of the Hughes Amendment? Worm hole or time/space warp portal that's opening up to pre-May, 1986?

 

[yzfchet]

Repeal of the Hughes Amendment? Worm hole or time/space warp portal that's opening up to pre-May, 1986?

Highly unlikely.

Regardless of the makeup of Congress, the White House, and/or SCOTUS, those in power have removed MGs from general public ownership in a backdoor manner by insuring a very limited (and diminishing) qty. and increasingly astronomic prices based on rarity. They will NEVER allow new MGs to enter the Registry under our Federal government as presently constituted.

If a poll were to be taken that queried the general public as to whether or not new M16s should be allowed to enter the Registry even with keeping all other NFA rules & regs as they are, the great majority would scream bloody murder. The perception, which the MSM would actively encourage, would be releasing a Mogadishu scenario on the American landscape. Most folks are not veterans, most folks only know of MGs based on what they see on TV and in movies, and most folks are willing to sacrifice a lot of liberty for the appearance of security.

 

[Battering ram NIB]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myd8sc320Hg

do you think this video will help ted cruz win?

or when Hillary plays it daily on commercials will he lose every soccer moms vote

nothing will get repealed except by a supreme court decision.....the supreme court is soon to be 5+ liberals.....your odds are better to lose all your gun rights than make FA legal

as for the trigger....i will most likely buy one for my Semi Auto M4...why not

 

[komodoj]

Neat video, TY for sharing it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Myd8sc320Hg

do you think this video will help ted cruz win?

or when Hillary plays it daily on commercials will he lose every soccer moms vote

nothing will get repealed except by a supreme court decision.....the supreme court is soon to be 5+ liberals.....your odds are better to lose all your gun rights than make FA legal

as for the trigger....i will most likely buy one for my Semi Auto M4...why not

 

[Battering ram NIB]

do you agree if he is the nominee that video will be shown daily?

i know there is one of him shooting a AK also

Trump says he has a conceal carry permit....what is his gun of choice? is he a 1911 .45 guy (gold plated of course) or is he a .380 guy?....or is he a liar

 

[medphys]

No. $479 is not realistic along with the product function and controls. No practical use. If one were to be burning up ammo i would get the soon to release JT grip. I want to say $30. That's affordable. Save your money and buy $450 worth in ammo.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mCCvqv4mihg

Those triggers (binary and bump-fire) do have a practical use. Competition. Fast followup shots and 2-4 round bursts without the physical motion of the gun from the bump-fire stocks. Sure, if your opjective is mag dumps, bump fire is the way to go.

I think we'll be seeing some increased action with these triggers along with PCC matches in the near future.

 

[Vegas SMG]

I'm not sure these will be allowed in matches or if they'll actually prove to offer the shooter a real advantage. What sounds good in theory may prove impractical in reality, and I've got real doubts as to their benefit in a match. Perhaps a special class will open for these triggers? Time will tell.

I do know that there's nothing more satisfying than a super nice trigger on any gun. It's difficult if not impossible to shoot any sort of group with speed if you're constantly fighting a heavy trigger pull.

If you don't want to wait, it may be possible to cut a hammer pin where it's hidden underneath the hammer and reinstall. I had one break and it functioned exactly as the Echo except in the semi setting. It'd sure be cheap to find out, plus AR lowers are cheap enough not to worry about egging the hammer pin axis hole.

 

[IndyGunCollector]

Competition is good for the consumer.

I hadn't seen the JT Grip before... that looks like a new approach. However, for pistols, their website says,

"According to the BATF, installing the JT Grip on a pistol under 26 inches will create an AOW which is illegal without proper Form 1 paperwork, and $5 tax stamp. To legally install the JT Grip on an AR 15 or AK 47 “pistol”, the overall length needs to be greater than 26 inches."

He's wrong -- if you're an "unlicensed" INDIVIDUAL, the MAKING tax is still $200 on the Form 1; it is the TRANSFER TAX on an AOW that is the one that's just $5.

.
.

EDIT: Also, they're really not well-suited for rifles... they won't work if you place the rifle stock against your shoulder. A SlideFire or similar stock is better for a rifle application. Pretty cool for pistols, though. I might have to have an AK pistol registered as an AOL and put one of these on it.

Looks like a good option for an M70 AB2 underfolder though.

 

[jandbj]

Competition is good for the consumer.

I hadn't seen the JT Grip before... that looks like a new approach. However, for pistols, their website says,

"According to the BATF, installing the JT Grip on a pistol under 26 inches will create an AOW which is illegal without proper Form 1 paperwork, and $5 tax stamp. To legally install the JT Grip on an AR 15 or AK 47 “pistol”, the overall length needs to be greater than 26 inches."

He's wrong -- if you're an "unlicensed" INDIVIDUAL, the MAKING tax is still $200 on the Form 1; it is the TRANSFER TAX on an AOW that is the one that's just $5.

.
.

EDIT: Also, they're really not well-suited for rifles... they won't work if you place the rifle stock against your shoulder. A SlideFire or similar stock is better for a rifle application. Pretty cool for pistols, though. I might have to have an AK pistol registered as an AOL and put one of these on it.

I fail to see where the AOW determination has anything to do with their grip and everything to do with adding a VFG to the same "pistol" (not firearm), thus the 26+" mention.

 

[Concorde]

I fail to see where the AOW determination has anything to do with their grip and everything to do with adding a VFG to the same "pistol" (not firearm), thus the 26+" mention.

Read the ATF grip letter more carefully. They specifically state that the bumpfire function of the grip requires that the firearm be fired WITH TWO HANDS... and that's the issue -- a standard handgun is defined by thr ATF as designed/intended to be fired "with one hand" (understood emphasis on "one") so if on a less than 26" pistol, it becomes an AOW (regardless of whether or not a VFG is installed).

 

[Beowulf]

There is something much better than all of these coming...

Cryptic message is cryptic.