Cheap prices on NEW IMI Galil barrels $69.99

[adipose]

Pray tell just what specifically is it about these barrels that " you are not impressed with " ?

Loner 42; I think GBfirearm sales answered part of this for me, unless it is a IMI product, probably don't want it on my build.

But my main point is; if it is advertised as a Galil "IMI" item; were is the proof?
The marking on it just don't make sense. The one symbol looks like a russian / turkish emblem.

Like Jeff said it to me tonight; Don't sell me a advertised Harley part, if it was made in Japan.

GBsales is right; if it is to spec, then fine; it will work. But so are green mountain barrels.

I rather use a chromelined one.

Have you installed your yet? Feedback from earlier discussions would be great.

Like I said, I bought a barrel and I hope I'm wrong.

 

[gbfirearmsales]

for what its worth, one of my guys is from Israel and served in the IDF. He still has many military buddies and contacts there. I showed him one of those barrels, he took some pictures and sent them to a capt who he went to school with, that is still serving. His friend, the capt, says the barrels are in fact IMI, according to some of the markings on the barrels. I know it's not alot to go on and this guy could be wrong, but he did say differently. I have not seen any evidence either way to show they are, or are not so.....I would buy these just on the premise that they fit, work and look factory....if you are rebarreling a classic original, you may have to fork over the crazy bucks some of those people are asking for barrels with the markings you want.

Lets not forget that the possibility exists, that the Galils imported and sold out of Israel, had barrels marked differently than military current use Galils. Unless someone here has a contact from within the Israeli government, we just won't know the answer to that question with any certainty.

 

[1turboturtle]

Any new info on these? I got a couple of them, and they look great on the outside, but as for function/country of origin I have no clue.

Also, these are 1/12 twist. What's the best ammo for these barrels? Thanks

 

[misfit762]

I didn't know there was such an animal as a 1/12 twist 556 barrel. If a 1/7 is for the heavier 70+ grain bullet and the 1/9 is for the lighter 55-69 grain bullet, what is the 1/12 for?

 

[Blazin]

I didn't know there was such an animal as a 1/12 twist 556 barrel. If a 1/7 is for the heavier 70+ grain bullet and the 1/9 is for the lighter 55-69 grain bullet, what is the 1/12 for?

M16A1's had 1-12, as did/do most sporting rifles. Check out the below link, about halfway down, it looks like 1-12 will stabilize 55-60 grain bullets.

http://www.riflebarrels.com/faq_lilja_rifle_barrels.htm#twist rates

 

[misfit762]

Cool!

Thanks for the info!

 

[1turboturtle]

Thanks for the link and the info Blazin. The only other 5.56 barrel I have is on a Yugo M95, and that has the 1/7 twist, so 1/12 seemed kind of odd to me.

 

[Timberwolf]

I remember reading an article some time ago that the early M-16 1/12 twist with 55gr fmj bullet combo produced devastating wounds because the slower twist rate would allow the bullet to tumble sooner upon impact in tissue. I don't remember where I read this. Could just be a tall tale, but seems to make sense.

 

[Che]

1 in 12 inch twist was the standard twist on all of the early M16s (M16 and M16A1), except for some very early ones which were 1 in 14 inch twist. 1 in 7 inch twist started with the M16A2 series.

The rumors were that the 55g of the 1 in 12 inch M16s and M16A1s did cause nasty wounds. I was not there, so perhaps someone with actual Vietnam or combat M16A1 (or before) experience can pipe in.

 

[Realnutjob]

Ah, go to a Harley Plant, most of the boxes do say made in Japan, and Australia also. At least the one in Kansas.

But, these look like good barrels for the money. But, I haven't shot one yet. Seem to be in spec also.

 

[davekr]

I might buy one because the price is really cheap. Can't be any worse than my GM barrel for accuracy.

Early production models were supplied with barrels that had six right-hand grooves and a 305 mm (1:12 in) rifling twist (optimized for use with M193 ammunition), while recent production models feature a 178 mm (1:7 in) twist barrel with six right-hand grooves (used to stabilize the heavier SS109/M855 projectile).

 

[Blazin]

Has anyone used these barrels on a build? If so, how does it shoot?

 

[Westcliffe01]

I used one of these on my build. My "build" of course being my ill fated Golani barrel replacement where they parked the entire bore.. Besides the fact that the receiver is so out of spec that the rifle cannot feed brass cased ammo worth a damn, every type of mag fits too loose, and that century bubba'd both the bolt carrier and the bolt itself, I personally don't think it shoots worth a damn. However, I will say that I cannot shoot open sights due to my eyesight, and I have not spent the $400+ needed for a red dot optic for my gas tube rail on account of how unreliable my weapon is.

Hopefully, if the CNC Warrior receivers finally come through, I may actually get mine working, but when that time comes I am fitting a match stainless barrel to mine (modified Savage prefit is the best way to go) and it is getting an AK bolt carrier. That would mean that the only original parts on my rifle would be the parts internal to the receiver and the handguard/pistol grip. If that does not tell you a story of the futility of trying to work with a Century product, then I don't know what will.... It makes the AKparkskits prices look cheap...

 

[Blazin]

I used one of these on my build. My "build" of course being my ill fated Golani barrel replacement where they parked the entire bore.. Besides the fact that the receiver is so out of spec that the rifle cannot feed brass cased ammo worth a damn, every type of mag fits too loose, and that century bubba'd both the bolt carrier and the bolt itself, I personally don't think it shoots worth a damn. However, I will say that I cannot shoot open sights due to my eyesight, and I have not spent the $400+ needed for a red dot optic for my gas tube rail on account of how unreliable my weapon is.

Hopefully, if the CNC Warrior receivers finally come through, I may actually get mine working, but when that time comes I am fitting a match stainless barrel to mine (modified Savage prefit is the best way to go) and it is getting an AK bolt carrier. That would mean that the only original parts on my rifle would be the parts internal to the receiver and the handguard/pistol grip. If that does not tell you a story of the futility of trying to work with a Century product, then I don't know what will.... It makes the AKparkskits prices look cheap...

Westcliffe: I have a really bad CAI story myself. Can you explain the "modified Savage pre-fit" barrel on a Galil? You have my curiousity peaked...

 

[Westcliffe01]

The Galil /Golani barrel thread is pretty small in diameter compared to a Savage action. So if you buy a Savage pre-fit barrel, all that needs to be done is to re-contour the OD of the barrel and cut a new thread for the receiver. This is pretty regular gunsmith work, meanwhile you have a lapped bore and the chamber is already reamed and polished. Worst case scenario one can set back the chamber a little if needed. The barrels are typically 26" long, so after contouring and turning the new thread for the action, the muzzle end can be parted off and re-crowned.

Northland Shooters Supply has Criterion match barrels in stock (416 stainless) in several twists for $280 each http://www.savageshooters.com/showthread.php?6274-CBI-%28Criterion%29-Rifle-Barrels