Dig out that old Fleming upper and sell it

[skoda]

rsideout, does that Tactical Inc magazine that you are including work with your Flemming? I can only get mine to work with Ramline mags.

 

[SecondAmend]

rsideout, does that Tactical Inc magazine that you are including work with your Flemming? I can only get mine to work with Ramline mags.

A couple of somewhat related questions: As Ramline was bought out years ago and the current product is made by Champion; has anyone tried to see how well current Champion made 10/22 mags work? And the Ruger made 10/22 mags of today are somewhat different that those of yore. Has anyone tried to see how well current Ruger made 10/22 mags work?

 

[rsideout]

rsideout, does that Tactical Inc magazine that you are including work with your Flemming? I can only get mine to work with Ramline mags.

I haven’t used it in years, but I remember it being hit or miss with that mag. The cheap Champion mags worked ok. They are what I use in my full auto Roger 10/22. The Champion 25 round single stack mags are more reliable than their 30 round double stacks.

 

[KickStand]

If I had one of these, I would sell it and wait for Mak91’s uppers to come out.
This is likely the best time to sell one, as there’s no other 22 that’s currently being made.

 

[yticllik]

Another one, this time for an M11, up on GB.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/951681840

 

[RevolverJockey]

I had mine out this weekend and it runs like a top as long as you have properly modified BX-25 mags.

 

[yticllik]

I had mine out this weekend and it runs like a top as long as you have properly modified BX-25 mags.

Mine runs when I use a specific BX-25 mag. I also replaced the extractor. Still not even close to reliable though.

What did you modify on your mags?

 

[RevolverJockey]

Mine runs when I use a specific BX-25 mag. I also replaced the extractor. Still not even close to reliable though.

What did you modify on your mags?

You just have to make a square relief for the tab on the bolt. Even if you go slow it only takes about 10 minutes a mag. You want to take just enough but not too much because even when properly fitted, the bolt rubs a bit. If you look at the feed lips on a Ramline you can see why they don’t drag - you just have to produce that without taking anything off the ejector tab. Work slow and sharpie up the feedlips so you can see what is hitting. Usually when I am done, it takes one more crack at it after live fire because there is just a little to much drag, but once fitted they run and still work in 10/22s. I would say I probably have one failure every 4-5 mags and it is usually a last round failure to feed or a light strike that fires the second time. Hope this helps, I would post pictures or video, but don’t have any editing software that can make small enough files.

 

[yticllik]

You just have to make a square relief for the tab on the bolt. Even if you go slow it only takes about 10 minutes a mag. You want to take just enough but not too much because even when properly fitted, the bolt rubs a bit. If you look at the feed lips on a Ramline you can see why they don’t drag - you just have to produce that without taking anything off the ejector tab. Work slow and sharpie up the feedlips so you can see what is hitting. Usually when I am done, it takes one more crack at it after live fire because there is just a little to much drag, but once fitted they run and still work in 10/22s. I would say I probably have one failure every 4-5 mags and it is usually a last round failure to feed or a light strike that fires the second time. Hope this helps, I would post pictures or video, but don’t have any editing software that can make small enough files.

Thanks! I am fortunate to have a couple Ramline mags so I will compare. I need to try those again too. When it does fail, it seems like it bends the bullet out of the case and doesn’t fire. The other thing that happens is that the case doesn’t get properly ejected and it ends up falling into the action, jamming things up.

 

[RevolverJockey]

That is the one thing with these kits. There is so much rooms for spent cases and there is nothing you can about it. Whenever you have a failure to feed, remove the upper and look. A lot of times brass gets stuff beside the sear and disconnector arm.

 

[yticllik]

Yes! Funny though. Seems like such an 80s hack job! Ha ha

 

[SecondAmend]

... Hope this helps, I would post pictures or video, but don’t have any editing software that can make small enough files.

FWIW, I use imgur.com to generate pictures that can be posted. It's a free website, easy - drag and drop - to upload to, and has several options, one of which is the generation of a cut and paste web address specifically for posting photos on boards such as UziTalk and the like.

MHO, YMMV, etc. Be well.

 

[root]

That is the one thing with these kits. There is so much rooms for spent cases and there is nothing you can about it. Whenever you have a failure to feed, remove the upper and look. A lot of times brass gets stuff beside the sear and disconnector arm.

Yup I've found as many as 5 spent 22 cases down in my lower after shooting the little MAC attack.
I just shake them out when I swap uppers so far never caused a stoppage.