Do any of you shoot reloads?

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I shoot only reloads in my MK-760, SWD M11/9, and MAC 10/45. I did have a squib one time in my SWD M11/9 with an OOB explosion, but no injuries and no damage to the gun. The squib was caused by a factory round, not my reloads. I've had a few low powered loads from old ammo I've reloaded, and we are talking ammo I loaded over 20 years ago, but rarely does any of my ammo give me problems (except the flatnose 9mm, with occasional failure to feed). If you're gonna shoot sub-guns, I would reload. This hobby is expensive enough as it is. I've reloaded over 2000 rounds of .45acp this weekend, and will have another 2000 reloaded before next weekend. The Dillon machine makes it fast.
 

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Yes, a progressive reloading machine like a Dillon or a Lee Pro 1000 is a *must have* !!
 

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About all I use is my own handloads,, I have more control over quality than some unattended machine running a-muck out on a shop floor somewhere.
 

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I was looking at a lee 4 hole turret press or just the cheap single stage .
 

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the above kinda answered my question. Where does the above poster get 25,000 rds of brass to reload for 10 cents each. I understand that he is I think saying that he hand casts lead bullets.( how hard is that) I am interested in loading 223 & 9mm. where does the serious reloads buy your supplies and what equipment do you use?
 

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I was looking at a lee 4 hole turret press or just the cheap single stage .

If you're loading for a subgun, you'll not be happy with that. I have a 4-hole Lee Classic that I use for match rifle cartridge loading, but I use a Lee Pro 1000 progressive press for pistol ammo -- I can easily get 300-400 finished cartridges in an hour with the progressive press. A single stage or even simple turret press can't compare.

I shop for best pricing online and stock up. Plated bullets (Ranier, Berry's or Xtreme) at least 1000 at a time, CCI primers 5000 at a time, and 8 pound jugs of HP38 or Win231 powder.
 
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If you're loading for a subgun, you'll not be happy with that. I have a 4-hole Lee Classic that I use for match rifle cartridge loading, but I use a Lee Pro 1000 progressive press for pistol ammo -- I can easily get 300-400 finished cartridges in an hour with the progressive press. A single stage or even simple turret press can't compare.

I shop for best pricing online and stock up. Plated bullets (Ranier, Berry's or Xtreme) at least 1000 at a time, CCI primers 5000 at a time, and 8 pound jugs of HP38 or Win231 powder.

I have seen several videos on the Dillion 650 & 1050 but only read that the Lee's are also good. Are you familiar enough with the Dillion to compare the Lee to it or Just Give your review of the Lee unit's. Do you use brass catchers to reclaim your brass or just spread out a trap or sheet. How may times can you reload a hull? Thanks for the information
 

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I reload using a Lee Pro 1000. I set it up for 45acp, reload in batches of 500 or so. The reloads operated just fine in M10. I do not find reloading enjoyable or fun, just a chore. The mind numbing repetition gets old. I prefer Russian steel cased for the M10. If supply and price returns to normal, I will gladly store the lee pro.
 

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I've used both Lee progressives, The Dillon 550 and 650, the Hornady Pro-Jector and a Star Universal among others. For My Money, the Dillon machines are the best bang for the buck, if you'll pardon the pun.

The Lee units both had serious issues with priming operations. Large primers were better than small, but the failure rate with either was unacceptable for my standards. Some people get the Lee machines to work well enough for them, but the priming issues are a common theme among users. I traded my last lee progressive for an Antique rifle earlier this year. Please understand, I'm not generally apposed to using Lee reloading equipment, I've just found their progressive presses to be problematic. Others have had differing experience with them.

The Dillon 550 is slower than many of the other progressives, and doesn't have as many bells and whistles, It manually indexes, and doesn't come with a case feeder (though they are now available as accessories). The manual indexing increases the likelihood of a squib or a double charge, all other things being equal, and so I don't recommend it as a beginners progressive.

The Dillon 650 is my personal favorite of the 'consumer' grade progressive presses that are currently available. It's more money than most of the others, but I liken the purchase to that of an MG; It costs a lot up front, but the long term benefits are well worth the expense to me. Once properly set up, the Dillon 650 is both simple to use and fast. It produces quality ammo, and does so with a low failure rate.

The Hornady Pro-Jector seemed in many ways as good as the Dillon 650, but lacks the ease of caliber change-over as well as the aftermarket support the 650 enjoys. If I was limited on budget and only planned to load one or two calibers progressively, I would consider the Pro-Jector.

The Star Universal is an excellent press, and was the inspiration for all of the Dillon progressive presses. It's draw-backs are the lack of customer support, limited part availability and caliber options, and rather high expense. If looking for a Star reloading press, be aware that there are the universal presses, and the dedicated presses. The universal presses can change calibers with the proper parts, the dedicated presses cannot (at least, not without substantial machine work). All of the Star presses use proprietary dies. As a result of the various draw-backs, I would't recommend the Star presses, in-spite of their high quality and long record of service.

Whatever you decide on, I suggest buying a press that is currently being manufactured, and buying whatever the recommended spare parts are for the press to have them on hand.

For bullet casting on a budget, I would go directly for the Lee products, in particular, their pro 4-20 melting pot and 6 cavity bullet molds. If planning to go that route, check out the forum over at castboolits.gunloads.com for more knowledge than any single person could ever absorb. The simple advice is, smelt (melt the lead to clean it of impurities) in a different pot than what you use to cast the bullets, clean the mold thoroughly before casting, and pre-heat the mold before starting to cast. There's obviously a lot more to it, but starting with that you're more likely than not to succeed with your efforts.
 

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Anyone here have any luck casting their own bullets for the m11? I had bad luck with premade lead bullets. I would love to get a bullet / lube / powder combo working in my M11 as I have a lot of lead I could smelt into bullets. Shooting on the cheap is always fun.
 

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Here is a good review of the 3 major progressive presses out there. http://www.comrace.ca/cmfiles/dillonLeeHornadyComparison.pdf

Thats a good review, with the exception of the Lee priming system. The Lee priming system simply did not work worth a hill of beans in my experience, and that included the "new and improved" parts they have released in the last year or two. The Lee system does better with large primers, but with small primers, it was hopeless.
 

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I reload on an RCBS turret press. At top speed I can put out a little over 100rds per hour, including prep time. Up until this point I have been happy with my setup, since 100rds is what I typically shoot per pistol per range session. I also reload for rifles and some obscure pistol calibers which require the oversight that a single stage provides, but I also have the speed available that a turret allows. So it's been a good setup for me.

But with this M11 on the way and the Lage Max11 750rpm bolt I feel I am going to be spending a lot more time at my turret.
 

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The Dillon 650 is my personal favorite of the 'consumer' grade progressive presses that are currently available. It's more money than most of the others, but I liken the purchase to that of an MG; It costs a lot up front, but the long term benefits are well worth the expense to me. Once properly set up, the Dillon 650 is both simple to use and fast. It produces quality ammo, and does so with a low failure rate.

This is the press I use. My only real complaint about the Dillon 650 is that it's a pain in the rear to change the primer system from large to small primers and vice versa. Outside of that it's pretty easy to set up and use. I load a lot of 45 and 9mm on my press, and use carbide dies. These 2 calibers feed all my sub-guns really nicely.
 

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I've used the Lee Pro 1000 for more than a decade. I've only had to replace one part last year and Lee provided it for free even though it's long out of warranty. I have no problems with the priming system. Every time I reload the tray with primers, I use a can off "dust it" compressed air to blow out the primer chute -- and it stays trouble free. The Pro 1000, unlike the Loadmaster, has a very good "feel" for seating primers. If I've picked up some mil brass that hasn't had the primer pocket chamfered, I know it immediately upon seating. There's never any problem with commercial brass.

I can change calibers (I just load .380, 9mm and .45) in about 3-5 minutes, though I don't change very often -- I load a lot of cartridges once it's setup.
 

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I've used the Lee Pro 1000 for more than a decade. I've only had to replace one part last year and Lee provided it for free even though it's long out of warranty. I have no problems with the priming system. Every time I reload the tray with primers, I use a can off "dust it" compressed air to blow out the primer chute -- and it stays trouble free. The Pro 1000, unlike the Loadmaster, has a very good "feel" for seating primers. If I've picked up some mil brass that hasn't had the primer pocket chamfered, I know it immediately upon seating. There's never any problem with commercial brass.

I can change calibers (I just load .380, 9mm and .45) in about 3-5 minutes, though I don't change very often -- I load a lot of cartridges once it's setup.

Interesting, I only loaded a few K rounds on a friends pro-1000. I remember having a number of issues, but I don't know how much of that was his maintenance of the press. I'll have to take another look at it and see if the priming system is different than the loadmaster. I'm not anti Lee, I just had a terrible experience with the loadmaster. I've had 4 loadmasters, 2 came to me used, and 2 were bought new, and they all had the same problems with priming. My experience is limited, but it was enough for me to swear off the loadmaster permanently.
 

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I currently use a Dillon 550. When I first got it, about 35 yrs ago, it was a 450. When the 550 came out Dillon traded me a 550 for my 450 + $100. That really speeded things up. Caliber change only takes a few minutes. I've had it rebuilt once and the primer feed replaced both for free. I would highly recommend Dillon but now I would have the 650.
I've loaded 1000's of rounds of most popular handgun rounds and never had a problem.

I use lead 230 gr. for the .45 and I'll use plated for the 9mm.
 

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Interesting, I only loaded a few K rounds on a friends pro-1000. I remember having a number of issues, but I don't know how much of that was his maintenance of the press. I'll have to take another look at it and see if the priming system is different than the loadmaster. I'm not anti Lee, I just had a terrible experience with the loadmaster. I've had 4 loadmasters, 2 came to me used, and 2 were bought new, and they all had the same problems with priming. My experience is limited, but it was enough for me to swear off the loadmaster permanently.

I wouldn't trust another person's loading press until you've really gotten the feel for it and know for a fact that it is set up properly. I use the Lee Pro1000 and it works great once you get the hang of it. I actually like the fact that you can only load about 100 at a time. It forces me to stop, clean, and regroup before the next round. I can easily do 300-400 rounds in a sitting without getting fatigued. Do a reloading session 3 days in a week and I've got 1000 ready to go for the next practice/match.

...and regarding the primer tray and chute, a little bit of graphite in the tip of the tray that inserts into the chute helps the primers to flow a bit better.
 
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