ERB Sterling Report

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I recently had a sten MkII manufactured by Charlie Erb remanufactured into a Sterling Mark IV by charlie himself. I have to say that he took a boring awkward gun and turned it into a sweet shooting subgun that has fast become my favorite. The Sten did not do much for me. It was awkward to shoot, had a crappy heavy trigger pull and the mags were a pain to load. I heard that Erb was doing Sterlings so I gave him a call. Luckily, he lives about an hour from me in PA. He agreed to turn my Sten MKII into a Sterling clone for $600.00 with my parts kit. Since it was his tube to begin with, he was able to manufacture it into an exact clone of the sterling with the factory correct cocking slot and the ability to accept original unmodified Sterling parts. I drove my tube and parts to him and in less than two weeks, he had it done. As far as I can tell, it is an exact conversion into a Sterling. I had two parts kits and parts from both fit with no problem or modifications. Fit and finish were excellent. The only difference that I could find was that the mag well and pistol grip are tig welded to the tube instead of soldered. All other parts are soldered as in the original. The welded parts are more noticable than the originals, however they are very nicely done and are much stronger than solder. Charlie does not do the crinkle finish and leaves the gun parkerized. I initially was going to coat it black, but the parkerizing is actually very nice and I may leave it alone.

RANGE REPORT: Took the gun immediately to camp and test fired it the next day. Temperature was 15 deg. F blistering snow storm. I fired 6 sterling 34 round mags and one 50 round lanchester mag with no malfunctions what so ever. Shot exactly to point of aim and I was able to keep a full mag dump in a 9 inch pie plate at about 20 yards. Controllability was unreal. The front sight just danced around the pie plate, hardly moving at all. VERY smooth. Even one handed with the stock folded, the gun was very easy to control due to the centrally located pistol grip.

MAGAZINE REPORT: Test was done using DSA $10.00 special mags that I bead blasted and coated in matte black epoxy. These mags are a helluva bargain. I needed to tap the right side mag lip on a few with a small hammer to bring them back into spec, but other than that, they ran perfect. They all had severe finish wear and about 1/4 had some light pitting, but they all refinished to near perfect, except for the pitted ones. Even the pitted ones looked nice. Springs and followers all looked new and may have been replaced at some time in the life of the mag. Buy some of these before they are all gone.

EOR

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CLC, welcome to Sterling Talk and thanks for the report. Lots of Erb registered guns out there but I didn't know that he's still doing gun work. Sounds like you got excellent turn around on the project, which isn't always the case with some of the big name guys.
 

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You're among friends here. If you get a chance, we'd love to see pics - esp. without the crinkle finish. Does it have that British issue look?
 

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magazines

Here are the magazines. Before refinishing, after bead blasting, and fully finished in epoxy matte black. I may coat the entire gun in the epoxy matte black, I haven't decided.
 

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As you can see from the photos, the parkerized finish is more sten like than sterling. I do not like the crinkle finish and will not put that on the gun. I may finish the entire gun in the matte black epoxy, but I haven't decided. The finish looks worse in the pictures than in person. It is actually a nice parkerizing job. The magazines refinished so nice that I may do the gun to match. The epoxy finish is easy to apply and cures in about a week to a very hard attractive finish. Best part is that I can do the entire gun for abut $7.00. I will keep you posted. I am in the process of refinishing 30 sterling mags and 5 lanchester mags. The magazines cost me less than $1 to refinish. When the weather breaks (we just got a foot of snow in my part of PA) I will dump all the mags in one session and report the results.

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Do you think Erb would take on someone elses STEn for this conversion?
 

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Charlie Erb...

Street Address: RD 1 Willock Road

City: Fredericktown

State/Province: Pennsylvania

Zip/Postal Code: 15333

Country: USA

Telephone Number: 724 632-6811

E-Mail Address: cerb@bentcom.net
 

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Sent my sten to charlie Erb for Sten to Sterling conversion.

Hi all! I sent my sten to charlie Erb to have him convert it to a sterling.
He recieved it on April 30th and promised me a 6 week delevery date. It's been 4 weeks and I just emailed Charlie for a update.
I will keep ya all posted. I cant wait to post pic's!
 

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Hey all...Got a reply from Charlie.
He said "Still working on finishing up your Sterling. Should not be much longer."
Man I can't wait! I'm sure it will be perfect when he's done!


az paul... Thanks for the welcome aboard. Looks like a great goup of guy's here at Sterlingtalk.

Koldt... I agree, the sterling with the park finish is unique for a sterling. Adds that old time military look.

Now when I go to the range people will have to say "Parked Sterling?!?!...isn't that one of those ERB Sterlings?"

Hang in there guys.
Once Charlie's done with the build I will post pic's as soon as I get the sterling back from him. Sounds like he is doing his best to rush the build.
 

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I'm amazed at the craftsmanship that goes in to the Andrewski builds. Check the difference in the visable welds, or lack of in his guns.
 

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Update on ERB Experience (bad)

While I was generally pleased with the conversion work done by Charlie Erb. He has royally screwed me by keeping critical parts and refusing to return them to me. When I took my Sten MK2 to him for conversion, I took two complete sterling kits and told him to use the best parts for the conversion and return the others so that I would have a complete spare parts kit. He also was to return the Sten MK2 mag well assembly from my Sten. This was when Sterling parts kits were everywhere for $200.00. Well here is it a year later (when parts kits are scarce and expensive) and I still do not have my parts. I E-mailed and called no less than 6 times. Finally, I sent a nasty e-mail after I saw him post some parts for sale and his response was to send me a couple of parts in the mail. No explanation or apology. He still kept my MK2 Mag well and several critical parts for Sterling conversions. (Rear locking ring, rear sight,stock latch assembly, etc.) I have been more than patient with Mr. Erb. But he has proven to be a liar and a thief. I would not do business with him again based upon his theft of my parts.
 

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You could sue him to get the parts back, if you are that pissed. How much are the parts worth? Is it worth it to sue? He might relent if he has to hire an attorney to defend your suit. Maybe you can find an attorney willing to work for a flat or reduced fee.
 

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I HAVE HEARD CHARLIE HAS HAD MANY PROBLEMS WITH OTHER PEOPLE. SOME WAITING FOR YEARS TO GET THEM RESOLVED.
 
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