The description says it is for the aluminum lowers and specifically not for the steel lowers. I bought one for the steel lowers 3 years ago, but I had to call them. It looks like the one pictured, so I’m not sure what the differences are.
I haven’t done anything with it. I think I’d rather have one fabricated from sheet steel and welded on like the stock grip.
The only part of the Glock grip frame being used is the grip area, the upper part of the frame has to be cut off, destroying the handgun receiver. Only 1 gun.
Their steel lowers are not designed to use removable grips, AFAIK. It simply will not bolt up. Additionally, the aluminum lower might have slightly different dimensions. It may not be as simple as just bolting this grip on, it might need a spacer or some other mod.
The initial model released with the Glock lower was a steel frame and a bolt on aluminum grip. They later changed it to an aluminum frame. The one I bought 3 years ago is for the steel frame. That’s what I specifically asked them for as the aluminum frames were already out at the time. Once you get yours, we can compare dimensions and see what the differences are (assuming the text on their site is correct and that they sent me the correct grip for the steel frame).
Just a quick question: since the Glock grip frame is legally a pistol, and the MAC is an MG, by combining them, aren't you violating the law (or an ATF ruling) by making 2 MGs?
It's a Magwell not a frame.
...After shooting about 2K rounds through a OEM G18, I wanted my own micro select fire pistol and this seemed to be the way to go. I too bought a SS CCF race frame after talking to Len Savange. I purchased the grip from the owner of CCF that was copped for the project. In the end, I did not go through with it as I wanted the option for multiple grip combos. ...
Hello,
The gun on the plywood backing is actually my gun!
The grip is indeed correctly identified as being from a steel CCF race frame. CCF made very few frames, of those made the vast majority were aluminum. The steel CCF race frames are absolutely ridiculously rare. It took me over a decade of looking to get one, and it was expensive, especially as it had to be canabalized from somebodies pride and joy "racegun". Then I sent it off to Len Savage. The CCF race frame is indeed destroyed, as far as being a gun, in the process, you are truly just cutting off the grip portion and welding that onto the M11 frame (of course it is not that simple, mag height, feeding etc.). BTW I was also able, all those years ago, to contact the former owner of CCF and ask him if he had one still laying around even if it was a defective one that he might be keeping as a memento or paper weight and he hooked me up. I got the last one!
I am currently getting ready to send an M11A1 380 off to Len for the Glock grip conversion (using that piece I got from the owner of CCF) and conversion to 9mm with tungsten bolt so I can have something much more compact. It should have a cyclic rate of around 1,000 which I am totally fine with (I've got training time on the mini-uzi and a factory Glock 18C as well).
I suppose other smiths could do it (I would try practical solutions if I didn't use Len Savage) but I went with Len Savage because he had done it before. There are I think maybe 4 or 5 total out there like mine. Not sure if they are transferables like mine.
With a CFW tungsten bolt in that thing, I would put it up against an MP5 any day for shootability or controllability and accuracy in burst (still can't compete with that closed bolt semi accuracy). I say that advisedly as someone with a fair bit of formal MP5 training and according to Anchorage Police SWAT standards (I've never been a cop but my instructor for a couple of the MP5 classes used to run APD SWAT and taught class accordingly). That was a lifetime ago!
Best wishes to everyone and a Happy New Year.
TED