Golani Sporter .223 issue

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More "nuggets of wisdom" from the "O-Troll" ?

boscoman, yeah i noticed that he has a new Idol. ORF's approval rating by him must be slipping. I don't know if i would want him as my Butt Buddy cheerleader or not if i were Tenngalil. I think he probably can drum up enough biz. on his merits, and word of mouth from actual customers ,without any "Armchair reviews " and senseless psychobabble from the "O-Troll ".

Anybody know what planet he's from ? My guess would be either Repeatius,or Ignoranius.

As far as his advice to noobs or anyone else goes, take it with a grain of salt because he only passes on what someone else said or what he read somwhere.
No hands on experience whatsoever........................
Don't take my word for it, ask him what his expertise is . How many AKs, Galils, Fals, or any other firearm he's built from scratch.

Nuff said, I could go on for hours but my bloodpressure's goin up
 

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There's nothing that the Poison People Posse fear more than a QUALIFIED builder.

It makes them quake in fear and run away. But not before posting endless drivel. :lol



More poison from from the TROLL Bitter Betty here.

Dispensing her vast knowledge of how to FAIL. Yeah. Thanks for that Bitter Betty.

She FAILED at getting a good Golani...where THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of others have suceeded.

So she wants everyone else to FAIL too. Tsk...Tsk...Tsk...Bitter Betty. :buttkick

If you want to FAIL at the well known and obvious way in which to end up with a good Galil clone...just listen to Bitter Betty. She screwed the pooch pretty good.

The way to get a good Galil clone is obvious. But she just wasn't up to the task.

And now she wants ruin it for others.

Sad. Sad and twisted.

Poor Bitter Betty.




On a positive note, IF YOU REALLY WANT A GOOD GALIL CLONE...all you have to do is have a QUALIFIED builder.

Why here is the contact info for a QUALIFED builder....member Tenngalil.


mlmueller@blomand.net

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The word "qualified" keeps coming up.

A quick poll: how many of you think a man who spells "torque" as "tork" is QUALIFIED to manufacture a firearms receiver?

Ok, maybe that's just uncalled for.

Let's ask a little more to the point question. Oswald, just how many ORF Galils do you own?
 

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kmw1970 said:
The word "qualified" keeps coming up.

A quick poll: how many of you think a man who spells "torque" as "tork" is QUALIFIED to manufacture a firearms receiver?

Ok, maybe that's just uncalled for.


Well, you started off with a sleazy shot...and went down hill from there.

Yeah. That was uncalled for.

It was unnecessarily demeaning and not germane in the least.

If you're honest, you'd have to admit that it was sleazy. Amirite?

It was a typical Bitter Betty comment. I'm not surprised.

What does a spelling error have to do with someones ability to produce a receiver THAT NO ONE ELSE...including YOU...was able...to produce?

You may be able to use Spellcheck, but, have you produced a Galil receiver...Mrs. Smarty Pants?

I will answer that. NO! You have not.

ENVIOUS MUCH?



Let's ask a little more to the point question. Kmw1970, just how many ORF Galils do you own?

And why are you participating in this mob action smear campaign?

Especially with an introductory slur as lame as a spelling error?




BTW, I don't take any of the Poison People Posse and their lame Smear Campaign seriously.

You yahoos are obvious! And funny...in a kind of sad desperate way. :buttkick :lol
 

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I'm an electronics engineer, not a mechanical engineer, so no I don't produce mechanical devices. I have designed medical equipment, industrial controllers, and military hardware, however. I do have a few (admittedly only undergraduate) mechanical engineering classes under my belt. I own three ORF receivers, and while I've had them in a lab to have them hardness tested, I have yet to build on them because THEY ARE FUNDAMENTALLY OUT OF SPEC WITH REGARDS TO THE BOLT LOCKING LUG RECESSES. Sure one can "modify" the bolts so these things sort of work right, but let's face it, it shouldn't be that way. Pray tell us Mr. First Grade Insults, exactly what credentials do you have to assess the quality of any engineered product? And again, for the fine gentlemen gathered here, how much of your money have you put where your ORF worshiping mouth is?

Of course you won't answer that question. It's been asked here before. You'll just throw personal insults, accuse people of base emotions, and generally muddle the issue.
 

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kmw1970 said:
I'm an electronics engineer, not a mechanical engineer, so no I don't produce mechanical devices. I have designed medical equipment, industrial controllers, and military hardware, however. I do have a few (admittedly only undergraduate) mechanical engineering classes under my belt. I own three ORF receivers, and while I've had them in a lab to have them hardness tested, I have yet to build on them because THEY ARE FUNDAMENTALLY OUT OF SPEC WITH REGARDS TO THE BOLT LOCKING LUG RECESSES. Sure one can "modify" the bolts so these things sort of work right, but let's face it, it shouldn't be that way. Pray tell us Mr. First Grade Insults, exactly what credentials do you have to assess the quality of any engineered product? And again, for the fine gentlemen gathered here, how much of your money have you put where your ORF worshiping mouth is?

Of course you won't answer that question. It's been asked here before. You'll just throw personal insults, accuse people of base emotions, and generally muddle the issue.




I'm sure you're credentialed up there with the best of them.

So why did you feel the need to take such a cheap shot about a spelling error?

No offense, but, being an electronics engineer does not QUALIFY you to build a Galil. It hasn't done you any good with your 3 receivers has it?

You may 'think' you are QUALIFIED to build a Galil, but, you haven't done so.

(That should have been your first clue right there.)

You 'think' that things should be different, but, they are not.

See...a QUALIFIED builder knows that there is some hand fitting involved. He doesn't huff and puff (as you appear to be doing). He has the requisite expertise that you lack.

He just goes about and builds. The FACT that there are THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of good Galil builds should tell you something.

The FACT that you cling to your untenable position tells me something...about you.

You are hypnotically (I mean this literally) conditioning to be unmoved by the reality that good Galil builds are being done EVERY DAY. Just not by you...because you lack the expertise.

It does no good to cry about not having new IMI receivers and brand new clean IMI parts that would make an easier build. It will never happen. Those days are over. GET OVER IT.

Whether you realize it or not, this is what your were demanding (probably subconciously). You wanted an easy build that you could do.

Well, you're not gonna get it.

Your EXPECTATIONS are off. And, thus, YOU are off.

What there is is what there is. ORF receivers, US barrels and parts kits.

This requires more expertise than you currently possess and more than you imagined. That's the problem. Reality vs your imagination. What you 'thought' it would be like is not how it is.

A QUALIFIED builder takes 'what it is' and builds a good Galil.

A NON-QUALIFIED builder snivels on endlessly blaming other for his own inadequacies.

"Sure one can "modify" the bolts so these things sort of work right, but let's face it, it shouldn't be that way."

See what I mean? Who told you it shouldn't be that way? Your imagination did.

"You'll just throw personal insults, accuse people of base emotions, and generally muddle the issue"

Actually, that's what you do. That's called "PROJECTION".

As far as insults go, I can defend myself from the likes of you. With ease.

If you start off confrontational with me, you ask for whatever you get.



With all due respect, I think your problem here is...PRIDE.

You started off with...

"I'm an electronics engineer, not a mechanical engineer, so no I don't produce mechanical devices. I have designed medical equipment, industrial controllers, and military hardware, however. I do have a few (admittedly only undergraduate) mechanical engineering classes under my belt. "

I get the impression that you are kinda pleased with yourself. I'm sure you are a smart guy, but, you completely missed the crucial...and very simple point.

You still haven't built a Galil.

You go on...

"I own three ORF receivers, and while I've had them in a lab to have them hardness tested, I have yet to build on them because..."

I'll finish that for you. BECAUSE...YOU LACK THE EXPERTISE.

It's no crime. Get over it.


You FAILED at trying to impress/intimidate/bamboozle me with your inapplicable academic background and nonsensical illogic.

Again, with all due respect, you are still just another guy in denial.

If you were QUALIFIED, you'd have built your Galils.

Wake up to that.


You may wish to consider having the HUMILITY to allow that others are more QUALIFIED than you.

You can tell those others easily because they are doing...every day...what you cannot.

A QUALIFIED builder builds with the materials at hand. He doesn't whine resentfully about how he wishes things were like a demanding child.

(BTW, how's that working out for you?)

With all my poking fun at the yahoos of the Poison People Posse (and I include you), it is a way of illustrating that the entire problem here is PRIDE and EGO.


Look. There are plenty of others that are doing what you cannot. And they do it every day.

Because they are QUALIFIED and you...are not.

You can stay stuck with your unfounded intellectual pride with 3 unbuilt receivers or you can gain some humilty and send at least one of them to a QUALIFIED builder and have some fun with a Galil.

My assessment is that reason you are not enjoying your Galil builds right now doesn't have anything to do with the ORF receivers. Your problem is your unfounded intellectual pride.


"Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding"

-- Proverbs 4:7





If there is anything else I can help you with...I'm at your service.

I must warn you, though. I am more than a match for the nonsense of you or anyone else in the Poison People Posse. :angel
 
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The ORF Galil receiver is out of spec. In my business FACTS are not "whining". It's a fact. Can it be made to work? Apparently so. Is it out of spec? No question about it. That's not "whining", it's stating a fact. If you don't like the facts, that's not my problem.

I'm not arguing with the FACT that there have been (so far) successful builds with ORF receivers. My concern is that just a toy, or a firearm? The receiver is out of spec, the bolt has to be HACKED to make it work. That's a fact.

And again, you attack, but you never state why you are so qualified in regards to this. But, I shouldn't feed the troll. Time to "ignore".
 

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kmw1970 said:
The ORF Galil receiver is out of spec. In my business..."

You missed it again.

You 'think', your imagination, your ego, your expectations are not in touch with reality.


An ORF receive is not an IMI receiver. No one ever claimed it was. It requires hand fitting to do a proper job.

This requires a level of expertise that you do not possess. Don't blame others for your arrogance.

You, like other NON-QUALIFIED people, don't want to know this. Wake the f*** up.

And also, Earth to Bitter Betty. You are not in your business. Get it?

It's someone else's business. Someone QUALIFIED. :lol


kmw1970 said:
FACTS are not "whining". It's a fact. Can it be made to work? Apparently so. Is it out of spec? No question about it. That's not "whining", it's stating a fact. If you don't like the facts, that's not my problem.

Oh yeah. You're a whiner alright. And a snivler. Big time. :buttkick

The FACT is that you still have not built your Galils while THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of Galils have been built by others...more QUALIFIED than you.

kmw1970 said:
I'm not arguing with the FACT that there have been (so far) successful builds with ORF receivers. My concern is that just a toy, or a firearm? The receiver is out of spec, the bolt has to be HACKED to make it work. That's a fact.

Wow. Are you ever intellectually dishonest? And can you twist things? Whew! :lol

Successful builds are not hacked. They would not be successful builds if they were hacked.

Again, you are not making any sense. You might make sense to your pals in the Poison People asylm, though. You're definitely on their frequency alright.


kmw1970 said:
And again, you attack, but you never state why you are so qualified in regards to this. But, I shouldn't feed the troll. Time to "ignore".


You are running away because you can't stand the light of day like the other Smear Campaign yahoos.

Climb back into your coffin before the dawn of reality comes. (That's a vampire joke, BTW.) LOL!

Run Bitter Betty! Run! :lol

It's so simple. Just send...at least one...receiver to a QUALIFIED builder.

It's just your foolish pride that stops you...and your yahoo pals.



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what creeps me out is a grown man that talks like you do in your posts.:sogay. I never said i didnt like my golani, just that it had a small feeding issue which i corrected. now all is well. never said it wasnt. And i have not heard anyone on this site say that a galil clone could not be built, let alone me being the one that said it. For someone that can keep the whole history of ORF's reciever line in their head,you sure cant quote anyone for shit. Read much? Try comprehending some of what you read and who wrote it. Assign the blame where it lays, not just with everyone who disagrees with your backward ass. Like i always say you just cant fix stupid.:finger
 

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I'm sorry i just read your last post where you are brow beating someone who you say has not built on his receivers because he cant or is not qualified. I'm going to ask you again, with all this knowledge you have about building firearms or at least galils, where are your custom builds built by your all knowing hands. Stop telling people how stupid they are and how incompetent they are and that they cant build a Galil when you cant even build one your damn self. I'm going to make this as simple as i can Oswald. The Galil is an AK variant. Understand? One of the simplest firearm designs in the entire world. If you can put a damn puzzle together and you can read the instructions on the package that your headspace gauge comes in you can build The AK-47. now, what did i say about the Galil? Yes, thats right, its a damn ak-47 with a different gas block, gas tube, and sight system. Oh yea and a different trigger spring and handguard. And one could argue that it has a milled receiver but some AK's do too so well over look that for now. This weapon is put together on the battlefield in some cases, out of several different weapons by soldiers or makeshift armorers. Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me.....US, that someone with machining skills, and a college education cant build a damn galil? Bullshit the fans dont bullshit the players oswald. And yes, i have build enough firearms in my lifetime that you couldnt fit them in the back of your fagwagon. so dont even start on me about not being qualified. I do this shit for a living and for you to tell me and everyone else on here that there is only a select few people in the world that can put together a Galil is absurd. And if you knew a damn thing about building a firearm at all you would know that ANY and ALL firearms require mass amounts of hand fitting of parts to make the firearm function. The galil and the Ak 47 family require less hand fitting than most. Try your hand at a custom competition 1911 then tell me how hard you worked on your last galil build. what a focking joke. Get some building experience first, then tell everyone else how damn dumb they are. Nobody is trying to outwit or out argue you because clearly you are the master of the english vocabulary. You can say the same thing 10 different ways with different words and i guess you think that just blows our minds. actually it just pisses everyone off and shows that you are ignorant when it comes to actual build knowledge and a fucking rocket scientist when it comes to repeating something you read somewhere or heard somewhere verbatum. It is so clear to all that your knowledge does not go past the current issue of soldier of fortune or shotgun news that you read at the fucking grocery store. If you want, you can come to my shop, and i will show you just how simple the galil and AK design is. In fact, bring a Orf receiver and a parts kit and i'll put the damn thing together in front of you, take it back apart, refinish the parts, and then well see if you learned anything and you can reassemble it. And i will do it for FREE. Just so we can end this never ending bullshit session. seriously, you cant constantly put someone else down for something when you cant do that something yourself. As far as you getting on me, well, half the crap you accused me of doing or saying i didnt have anything to do with. you brought me into this mess by trying to slander my name and telling me i cant do this and cant do that. well, its funny to me i have been DOING it successfully now for 14+ years, and not just talking about it on the internet. hell, i just got a computer about a week before i joined this site! What ever did i do before the internet? I slept a lot more for one thing. And i had a lot less stress because i wasnt having to argue with a man who learned his gunsmithing from gossip at the barber shop and the pages of the world wide web.
The offer stands Oswald, bring the parts, the labor is
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Jim C,
Man, you are wasting your time and energy trying to get through to the troll.
I know the desire to tear into him for stupid, dumbass remarks is sometimes unbearable and you feel like you just have to reply , but that's what he wants.
It's what keeps him going. Anyone that's been around him on any of the boards knows he's a 150% nutjob and has no standing at all . It's like "Oh no, not this f****n guy again " every time he comes out from under the trestle.
I don't understand why he has'nt been banned for trolling. He contributes absolutely 0 to this website and any other that he's a member of . Just repeats the same ol lame remarks over and over again.
Stick to the Ignore list feature and your cruzin experience here and on other boards will be a whole lot better spent than wastin it tryin to argue with him.
After all, you can still see what he said............. but ,WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO ?????:lol

I'd be willin to bet that if Todd himself asked him to please STFU ,he would'nt.
That's the only way he can get any recognition, even if it is negative.
It's all he's got.........................
 

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and how does this help the guy who actully started the tread? Oswald please shut the hell up already.:spam :flame
 

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Gentlemen, the majority of the posts on this thread are little more than unacceptable bickering and they need to stop. Debates on the ORF receivers are fine unless they get personal. Here's a clue - if you use the terms "O-Troll" or "Bitter Betty", then you have strayed from the subject matter. I'm hopefully that you guys can clean up this situation so I don't have to. Thanks.

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