Has anyone out there used Baked on Finishes

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Has anyone out there used any of the baked on finishes? If so can you post any pics of results, would you do it again, and is the process reversible if something went wrong? Is the stuff safe to use in your everyday kitchen oven, can I put a chicken in to roast after my gun comes out LOL?

Also let me throw out parkerizing as well, who has done it, would you do it again, and where did you get your supplies?
 
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I've used that bake on lacquer stuff from brownell's.

Save your time and money...it sucks almost as bad as that Alumahyde II they sell.

I've also used Norells and Gunkote bake ons and they are awesome!! Brownell's sells the bake on Moly (Gun Kote) in an aerosol and it does great too.

Brownell's Aerosol Moly Gun Kote (OD)

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Norrell's Moly (airbrush) Flat Black on the form 1 suppressor

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If you let it dry overnight, the fumes aren't as bad while you're baking it. Of course, if you leave the fan running on the hood and the kitchen window cracked, helps too, but it isn't as bad as I thought it would be the first time I tried it.

The KG Gun Kote and Norrell's Moly is the same stuff, though they offer different colors depending on what you want.

Now, if there's something that I want to finish or refinish, if it'll hold up to the 300 degree's baking temp for an hour, it's the only finish I'll use from now on. I don't think it could be improved on. Abrasion, chemical and heat resistance is great!
 

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What kind of prep work did you have to do to the little mac prior to apply the coating? Also is there any concern that should be made with regards to heating up gun parts to this temperature for that amount of time? The little mac looks nice!
 

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Thanks.

Prep work consisted of giving it a good cleaning and degreasing.

I stripped all the guts out of it because I wanted a 2 tone effect prior to refinishing. I don't think it would've hurt any of it by baking it though.
 

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jsitz, that's the stuff.

It doesn't gunk up if you spray it right. It goes on in several thin misting coats. If you can't paint well, then I'm sure it could. If you can paint OK, then you shouldn't have any problems.

If you look under the description of the paint, Brownell's has some instructional video's that pertains to everything.
 

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In the communities opinion would this hurt the value of a transferable m-11 as long as you didn't go out and use some crazy color? It just almost seems easier to do it one weekend than send it off for reparkerizing. Also I know the united states postal service is good but shit happens and it would cause down time from my toy.

Thanks MPA guy for all the info and pics!
 

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if its an smg, i wouldn't put that stuff on it but maybe re park it. The gun above is a semi with holes drilled in it with rails so the value will probably still be about the same as when it was purchased. Drilling into the receiver and changing the color is mostly personal preference but it may hurt it when and if you sell it.
 

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Brownells Moly Coat is good stuff if you do it right. I don't use the spray cans. They suck!!! Get the the larger size that needs thinned with thier thinnner and use a small touch up type spray gun.Grit blast with 220 aluminum oxide. Clean with electric contact cleaner. Blow off with "CLEAN DRY" compressed air.
Thin your paint a little more than the directions state. This will allow you to cover all the nooks and crannies with light coats. Cover all the hard to get to spots first. Then open up your spray gun and cover the the rest of all the "visable exterior" of the gun with light even coats.untill covered. Resist the urge to put on that extra coat. Once everthing is covered that is all that's need .

Let dry at least overnight. A day or two is better. Bake in your oven, or as I do, on your gas grill outside. The latter means no stink inside and no bitching from the SO.
I have done several firearms this way. Everyone thinks they are parked. A 1919 I did has over 40K through it. The finish is worn but but looks just like a worn parked gun. No chips what so ever.
 

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jsitz said:
In the communities opinion would this hurt the value of a transferable m-11 as long as you didn't go out and use some crazy color? It just almost seems easier to do it one weekend than send it off for reparkerizing. Also I know the united states postal service is good but shit happens and it would cause down time from my toy.

Thanks MPA guy for all the info and pics!

While I can see there might be some problems moving one done up in hot pink, the value of a transferable MAC/M* series gun realistically is in the piece of paper saying you aren't going to jail for having it. For guns that have additional collectible value, a refinish is going to hurt the value no matter what is used. Besides, it isn't permanent - if you want to repark it later on down the road, it really isn't any additional work to have it done, they should be sand/bead blasting it anyway.
 

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I say duracoat - I've done about 10 guns with it & it's great stuff. The bake on F-N sucks and smells up your house for a few days and really pisses off your wife
 

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Has anyone tried the "new" ceramic finish? Cures at 250 degrees on metal and 200 on plastic. 300 will get you a quick cure. I have seen several ceramic finished receivers at Sun Devil Mfg., but I have not tried one. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with it.

I have a vertical electric smoker in my back yard with a max temp of 275 so this would be perfect for it.
 

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I spoke to John from on target guns in Kenner LA. Great guy phenominal site. They have more paint & finish options than you can shake a stick at. Extremely fussy and endless options. Going to pack up mr vz58 for a strip down nit pick redo. Probably leaning towards cerakote, maybe kg. They make suggestions and may finish various pieces of the gun with different materials. Check their site out. Ontargetguns.com
Jim
 

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aw4ever said:
Brownells Moly Coat is good stuff if you do it right. I don't use the spray cans. They suck!!! Get the the larger size that needs thinned with thier thinnner and ..........

FYI

I use MEK to thin with. It will work with the Brownells stuff and the KG stuff. It is much cheaper and I believe it is the same thing. At least they smell the same to me. You can buy it at any big box home repair store.
 
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