How are beta testers determined
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Captain murrica
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Fancy footwear worked for me.
Must be some nice shoes
Do you have your original back? It would be interesting to hear what and how much difference the production version has made. ROF, weight distribution, ect...
This has been very informative & entertaining as I expected.
On a serious note what is a manufacture looking for.
They have obviously done some serous testing before investing in Machining production & ATF approval.
Are they just looking for feedback on reliability on different Macs, preparing themselves for problems.
Have they ever seen something so bad that a major redesign was needed, ouch that would be very expensive
On a serious note what is a manufacture looking for.
They have obviously done some serous testing before investing in Machining production & ATF approval.
Are they just looking for feedback on reliability on different Macs, preparing themselves for problems.
Have they ever seen something so bad that a major redesign was needed, ouch that would be very expensive
Must be some nice shoes
Do you have your original back? It would be interesting to hear what and how much difference the production version has made. ROF, weight distribution, ect...
I do not have the original prototype. Comparing the two would be like comparing the Flintstone mobile to speed racers mach5. While dimensional and concept wise they are very close the improvements in every aspect is truly amazing. Little things like the built in gas block in the back of the receiver show how much thought and detail went into this thing. Just the finish of the receiver alone is outstanding, no tool mark swirls and no sharp edges like my SABRE receivers. I fitted 8 different brands of magazines to the mag well without issue. I have only had the upper less than 24 hours and have not had a chance to fire it yet. You really have to see this thing in person and hold / touch it to appreciate what Richard has here.
For me it was agreed upon when I offered up the prototype that I would help with the beta testing. What I would think you would want to see is a mix of testers. Some that could trouble shoot issues and help with solutions and others that just fumble around doing stupid things. When we test our software some of the best testers are those that know nothing about the app. They push the wrong buttons and enter the wrong data. They expose things that you don't think of when you are concentrating on the "happy path". A good mix of lower receivers and different brand aftermarket installed parts, mag brands and different ammo all help in give you a realistic picture of how your product will perform in the real world.
That's kind of what I was thinking. From 40 years as a
tech at a Cadillac dealer you find failures the engineers never expected. It's just amazing what people can do to screw up a great product LOL
I have no doubt that it's a top quality upper, I own a 10/31.
tech at a Cadillac dealer you find failures the engineers never expected. It's just amazing what people can do to screw up a great product LOL
I have no doubt that it's a top quality upper, I own a 10/31.
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Vegas SMG
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Having a good grasp of the system and accessories is critical, but that’s not everything. The 11-15 combines the aspects of two, the M-11/9 and M-16. There’s any number of people who want to be beta testers just to shoot a few mags and have fun. That’s not enough. Shooting a variety of ammo over thousands of rounds is a must. Being able to diagnose and correct problems is essential. The manufacturer is looking for solid input before they go into production. In all seriousness, this is work.
I’ve been lucky. I’ve had several guys pound thousands of rounds of ammo downrange in short periods of time through the CF-W bolts. Their ammo expense was considerable, but their time was even more valuable. I had one tester, not a forum member but someone who’s opinion I respected, keep one of the bolts for five weeks. He had every excuse imaginable as to why he hasn’t test fired it. It was too hot, too cold, earth quakes, floods, kids got sick, car troubles, worked overtime, wife’s birthday, dog died, etc.
If your schedule is busy and you can’t devote time and ammo to help test and evaluate, you're probably not a good candidate.
I’ve been lucky. I’ve had several guys pound thousands of rounds of ammo downrange in short periods of time through the CF-W bolts. Their ammo expense was considerable, but their time was even more valuable. I had one tester, not a forum member but someone who’s opinion I respected, keep one of the bolts for five weeks. He had every excuse imaginable as to why he hasn’t test fired it. It was too hot, too cold, earth quakes, floods, kids got sick, car troubles, worked overtime, wife’s birthday, dog died, etc.
If your schedule is busy and you can’t devote time and ammo to help test and evaluate, you're probably not a good candidate.
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As a manufacturer I don't think I would want somebody messing with it. I would want to be informed first and understand what's going on. I made a drum years ago and between me and my buddy we had 5 Macs to test it with. We were at a mg shoot and a shooter had a Mac-11 and he saw us using that drum.
He asked and I said sure I'd like to see how it works in a mac 11and told him what ammo I was using, it worked good in it. He used the nastiest looking reloads I've ever seen and of course it didn't work. He proceeded to tell me how I needed to adjust the feed lips and other things lol.
That's when I decided I would never make those things and sell them
He asked and I said sure I'd like to see how it works in a mac 11and told him what ammo I was using, it worked good in it. He used the nastiest looking reloads I've ever seen and of course it didn't work. He proceeded to tell me how I needed to adjust the feed lips and other things lol.
That's when I decided I would never make those things and sell them
bac0nfat
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"I cut it down 3 times and it's still too short!"
Yeah I know what you mean about "getting your hands on one" I was out in the rain this morning trying to get some trigger time. Its a wash out weekend here but was able to get 200 rounds in. First impression was when the mail lady handed me the box at delivery, it was so lite I thought it was empty. Fit and finish is spot on and my little lady said it was "so smooth" after she shot it.
Beautiful!
I have only a 15 yard range right now, but am in the process of setting up another place where,if I cut some trees, I should be able to make 100 safely; I can get at least 75 out of it.
Also gonna have to build a backstop.
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