Well there's a powder springs can in indiana, it's on sturm, for $75, it's had the wipes converted to baffles, total for me would be $535 2x$200 $75 for the can and $50 to transfer, and $10 for shipping. Great deal for an indianian(sp?) but not so good for me. I could get a viper for what $150 more or so? What do you all think?