M11/15 Prototype

[bac0nfat]

you could buy a M16 for $22k or a Ruger ac556 for $9,000...

or a Lage 223 upper for $2500.....its a bargain!..

the last company to make .223 uppers was $2500 and that was many years ago.....so there should be no surprise at the cost....and dont forget the cost of drilling the hole and the new butt stock/buffer tube.....not sure if that is included

Your absolutely right and I'm not complaining, Mr Lage is my hero and I'm super excited that this is even happening! Just wanted to put in my two cents about price in case Mr Lage was looking for feedback.

 

[Battering ram NIB]

we are all just lucky for the option...for those who only own a Mac 11 and cant afford a collection of guns Mr.Lage has brought you a M16 for 10% of the cost of the real deal...

his prices for his other uppers have been fair, so im sure it will also be fair on this one too.....most will spend $500+ making it their own anyways...new barrel,stock,grips,gas block, etc...

 

[F-ing Hostile]

the last company to make .223 uppers was $2500 and that was many years ago.....so there should be no surprise at the cost....

Was the AA Sabre for the M-11/9 $2500, or was there a different upper? I was searching for the original price of the Sabre, but couldn't find any info out there...

 

[sparky923]

Hmmmm. Now where was that link to m11/9 spade grips and Beta mags???????
:hyper

 

[Battering ram NIB]

Was the AA Sabre for the M-11/9 $2500, or was there a different upper? I was searching for the original price of the Sabre, but couldn't find any info out there...

from what i could find they were priced between $2,000 and $2,500 range

what i found out about the AMp 10 is at the end they were reducing the price to sell them...not sure if they did the same with the Sabre....

most were selling for $2300-$2600 a while ago...now they seem to sell in the low $2,000's

 

[thelastdinosaurs.com]

Did we ever find out if a .22 conversion kit would work in this upper. I have the M10 and there are no other .22 options. By the way I was inline for a AMP 10 when AA went under. The price never dropped.

from what i could find they were priced between $2,000 and $2,500 range

what i found out about the AMp 10 is at the end they were reducing the price to sell them...not sure if they did the same with the Sabre....
most were selling for $2300-$2600 a while ago...now they seem to sell in the low $2,000's

 

[m11stuff@hotmail.com]

I'm pretty sure BATFE would have to approve use a .22 kit with it since it would not be using an operating rod through the rear of the receiver. Also, the added weight of the sear attachment would affect the kit working. On top of that, converting the .22 bolt to open bolt is going to rob even more energy from the system.

Practical Solutions makes a .22 kit for the M-10. Is there a reason people do not like them?

 

[LawBob]

M10 isn't an m11?

 

[sausagemc]

I am probably going to take a lot of heat for this, but I really wish that there was a way to make the system fire from a closed bolt. I hate the inaccurate first trigger pull. I know, it is a machine gun, but when I was using hm416's they were the best of both worlds.

My Sabre is ok to run crazy with on a bench, but an accurate semi and have full auto that is actually functional would be amaze balls.

Like I need it in the real world as I sit behind a desk...

 

[yzfchet]

I skimmed through the 45 pages of posts but didn't see the issue raised. It probably was but my search fu sucks.

Will the semi trip need to be removed from the lower receiver for the MAX-11/15 to operate or will semi-auto/single shot capability (albeit open bolt) be an available selection? Haven't seen the internals so I don't know if the bolt or some extrusion of it in the upper would trip the semi trip bar in the lower.

It may be that the trip can remain but if it will never be tripped by the MAX-11/15 bolt then it won't matter if the selector lever is in SEMI or SMG; it will always be full auto operation.

If this was already discussed please advise which post or page. Thanks.

 

[Gaujo]

Did we ever find out if a .22 conversion kit would work in this upper. I have the M10 and there are no other .22 options. By the way I was inline for a AMP 10 when AA went under. The price never dropped.

I remember them blowing out the gen1 Mac 10 sabre for 2k at the end.

 

[sardo_67]

I believe that this was discussed and the argument against it was that the result might be some uppers that will not run as configured by the end user. Then you have people contacting Richard with issues and wasting his time or complaining about the product because their configuration doesn't work. It's just not worth the potential frustration and issues that could arise. If the buyer starts with a working product then it's a lot harder to blame others when they screw it up. If everyone was reasonable then it would not be an issue but I can see how it could prove bad for the Lage brand. Besides, what stock AR parts do you have that could be used on the M11/15, a barrel and hand guard? Small ticket items that should not bother you if you are spending almost $3k on an upper and ammo to feed it IMHO.

this times a million, DIY type kts are USUALLY built by people with no talent or skills because they're cheap and then they fuck it all up. end result is a "lage" product that doesn't work right and makes him look bad. Lage is a good dude and want's his products to work 100% so he'll only sell complete uppers he knows will run, then if they don't he will make it right for the company, he's sent me stuff before when I had issues.

 

[Battering ram NIB]

Did we ever find out if a .22 conversion kit would work in this upper. I have the M10 and there are no other .22 options. By the way I was inline for a AMP 10 when AA went under. The price never dropped.

the forum member i bought my Amp 10 from told me he got it for -$100 or so towards the end....so some people got deals

Practical solutions has a .22 option.....he is redesigning it, so its a wait

 

[lokifox]

I'm ready... Good job!

I'm definitely curious about selective fire, that would be nice.

I really, really want to set one up in 458 SOCOM....

 

[sausagemc]

I'm ready... Good job!

I'm definitely curious about selective fire, that would be nice.

I really, really want to set one up in 458 SOCOM....

That would be a great round for a 10.5 inch barrel

 

[m11stuff@hotmail.com]

The MAX-11/15 does have both semi and full auto function.

 

[F-ing Hostile]

The MAX-11/15 does have both semi and full auto function.

You da man!!

 

[Ericoak]

I'm pretty sure BATFE would have to approve use a .22 kit with it since it would not be using an operating rod through the rear of the receiver. Also, the added weight of the sear attachment would affect the kit working. On top of that, converting the .22 bolt to open bolt is going to rob even more energy from the system.

Practical Solutions makes a .22 kit for the M-10. Is there a reason people do not like them?

The original had no extractor and the rounds were extracted and ejected by pressure. When it works it works, but when a .22LR case doesn't go off you have to manually extract it. I either had a cookoff or hangfire, either way I was 1 second away from being extremely close to the ejection port when the case blew.

Sam has a new kit with an improved extractor, but I haven't seen any sold yet.

 

[F-ing Hostile]

from what i could find they were priced between $2,000 and $2,500 range

I actually just came across a post from Vegas, made on nevadashooters.com in 2013, discussing the Sabre. Looks like AA sold them for $1950.00.

I would gladly pay that much or more for something similar made by Richard!!

 

[yzfchet]

Thanks, Richard.