Micro AK22 V1.0

TonyM

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Before anybody has an aneurysm, no original parts where harmed in the making of this range toy. 20 minutes with hand-tools and it can be returned to the original long barreled, full stocked configuration.

This started life as any other AP-80 imported by bingham, but was converted to full auto in '84 or '85. It is of course, a .22 caliber AK-47 look-a-like made in Italy.

What it looked like when I got it:

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This whole process started because I didn't like having to use an adapter to run a suppressor, so I was thinking about chopping the barrel back and rethreading it to 1/2x28. Then I started wondering how far I could chop it, and eventually wondering if I could chop it short enough to keep .22 bulk pack subsonic.

I photochopped a concept together:

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Then I spent some time and energy getting the gun to run reliably in it's original form.
Things I did:
Lengthen bolt stroke about 1/2"
Made custom firing pin and heat treat properly
Replaced firing pin spring to work with new FP design
Polish hammer surface that contacts bolt
Polish bolt rails and contact areas
Made Tungsten anti-bounce weight (reverted to steel, the tungsten was too heavy for reliable function)
Replaced recoil spring with new old stock
Replaced hammer spring with part from McMaster Carr
Sharpened and reshaped extractor for better grab
Reshaped all magazine feed lips for better feed angle.
Stripped and cleaned and lubed all mags, polished followers and adjusted springs.

With that work, the gun went from about 40-50% reliable, to about 95-98%. That's as good as any other .22 machine gun I've fired, so I felt like that was a good place to be.

And then in the last 72 hours, I built this:

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The stock bolts in place with an angled adapter to keep it's orientation correct, it screws into the original rear trunnion's factory threaded hole for the wood stock. Cheek weld is a little low for the red dot, but with a chin weld, it works.

The barrel was from a parts kit, and was chopped to 5" and threaded concentric to the bore (which was good, the bore was almost .050 off center from the contour!) I also ran my custom chamber reamer through it, polished the chamber and lapped the bore.

The MRDS mount was made from .25" aluminum, and uses the original pin and a series of set screws to hold rigid and adjust gross elevation. The docter red dot will do for keeping me on target (I hope). I may make another one in the future to cantilever the MRDS back about an inch, and down about 1/4" to improve sight picture when using the folding stock.

The K-grip uses an aluminum tube over the barrel with set screws to hold it in place, and the pistol grip from the parts kit is reversed and bolted to the tube. I screwed up one of the dimensions on this one, so I need to redo it, but it'll be pretty close to this in it's final iteration I think.
 

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Looks fun, I kinda like it.
Seems like with as few of them out there, you've probably just become the ranking expert in the US for getting these to function reliably LOL


Any plans to add some handguards?
After reading your last thread about it, I went out looking for ideas, and came up with a few.
I saved a few pictures of AK's that I thought had interesting handguard ideas, I'll post them and let you see where those thoughts were headed.
No idea what you were going for so I just started looking for super short AK's.

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Came out pretty nice.
If it still runs I'd say ya got winner all the way around.
Rich
 

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Nice work. The front end feels a bit weird to me but I can't figure out in my head how I'd want to fix it. I think it might be the way the foregrip attaches, if it was level with the pistol grip I think it'd look better.
 

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Looks great Tony. If you give me some dimensions in an email I can probably make you something like in the pic? You did awesome. Love that "Krink" look. FYI when your at the shoot Sunday, seek out Mark( you will know who he is,lol) he's an "AK" master!!
 

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Thanks guys!

The front end was an expedient solution so that I can shoot it this weekend without grabbing a bare barrel, but I like the way the gun handles with it. I have some material on order so that I can build a more traditional front end, and I might still do that when it comes in. We'll see.

Hal, I might take you up on that offer, and I'll definitely look for Mark.
 

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Well, after the match yesterday, it was obvious that the gun needs some more reliability work. Not surprising, so onward we move!

I had fired about 200 rounds trying to get everything tuned properly before the match, and had only dropped in some lube, without cleaning. It gave up about 150 rounds into the match, so it looks like current cleaning interval would need to be about every 300 rounds or so.

I'm pretty sure that I can improve that, but it gets into butt pucker territory, since I'll have to machine a set of "gunk reliefs" at the front of the receiver rails so that the carbon and unburnt powder will have someplace to go instead of collecting at the front of the rails and causing the bolt to stop short. I'm also considering machining the current (aluminum) rails right out of the receiver, and replacing them with a new set of hardened steel rails that would already have reliefs cut in. Either way, pretty high on the pucker scale, but let's be honest, there's no point in having a machine-gun that won't run!

I also need to rebuild the sight mount, as the current set up was problematic at best, and got jarred in the last stage as I was constantly having to smack the bolt forward to fire the next round. So it's clearly not robust enough to expect it to hold zero for any rough handling. I've got a few ideas on that, but I'll have to see what I can make work in the shop.
 

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I spent some time messing with the bolt and springs, and I think I can avoid the cutting on the receiver. I adjusted the bolt rails slightly to allow better gunk dispersal, and installed another recoil spring. It sped the gun up some, but now it's running after 500 rounds without cleaning.

Now I've got 3 options for recoil springs, the slowest one runs the gun at about 600 RPM, but has a really short cleaning interval, the medium spring is running about 720 RPM, and is still slow enough to pull singles, but runs longer between cleanings, and then the "heavy duty" spring that's running closer to 850 RPM that needs hotter ammo, but runs fine even with the gun filthy. More testing is in order, but like most projects, it's a work in progress.

It's nice and quiet with a can.

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and then the "heavy duty" spring that's running closer to 850 RPM that needs hotter ammo, but runs fine even with the gun filthy.

Seems like that's the norm with any full auto rimfire.
You buy them thinking "Oh yeah, this will be great, buy a ton of bulk ammo and shoot forever!", then the reality sets in that bulk ammo sucks and you have to buy the expensive stuff anyway.

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Seems like that's the norm with any full auto rimfire.
You buy them thinking "Oh yeah, this will be great, buy a ton of bulk ammo and shoot forever!", then the reality sets in that bulk ammo sucks and you have to buy the expensive stuff anyway.

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I've been pretty fortunate I guess, this one loves RGB and thunderbolts. With the lighter springs it will run ammo as weak as CCI SV and remington subsonic.

These days RGB and thunderbolts are about as cheap as I can find anywhere.

I've been out of federal bulk pack for so long I barely remember what it looks like. It doesn't love fed automatch, but it doesn't hate it either.
 

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TonyM,

Does your AK22 take the Black Dog AK22 magazines? They have some that were made with the wrong markings on them. They are selling them for $5 each instead of the normal $25 each. Choose the option "30R with 25R LOGO".

blackdogmachinellc.net/wasr-ak22-30-round

Richard,

Sadly, it takes the rare and expensive Bingham magazines. I think the last ones I saw sell at auction went for in excess of $100 a piece. I wish it took the Wasr-22 magazine, I'd be pretty happy with decent 30 round mags, even at $25 a pop!

Thankfully, I was fortunate enough to come into a small pile of original steel mags several years ago at a significant discount, so I've got about 20 magazines for the gun. It was a big part of the deciding factor for me when I found the gun for sale. The gun requiring expensive magazines sucks, but I suspect it's part of the reason the guns are still available at a relatively reasonable price compared to other F/A .22's. I'm certain that's what's holding the Voere 2005 F/A market back.
 

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Made a minor change to the front end, what do you guys think?

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