New to Galil's need help

[itsa_ss]

Hello from Kentucky. I just bought a Galil not knowing much about them but it was take it or never see it again so I bought it. I cant find anything on a rifle that is marked like mine. It says it is a springfield import, but has a magnum research serial number. any ideas? I tried to include a picture hope it works.

 

[gbfirearmsales]

I've never had one like yours so I can't comment but out of curiosity, how much did you pay for it?

 

[itsa_ss]

$1250, I thought it was a good deal and very happy with the rifle.

 

[Blazin]

$1250, I thought it was a good deal and very happy with the rifle.

Holy crap, you got a smokin' deal!

 

[gbfirearmsales]

Holy crap, you got a smokin' deal!

It was not a "good deal"..you stole that freaking thing. Good job.

 

[Jager]

Go buy a lottery ticket before this luck runs out! Post some more pics, good looking rifle from what I can see.

 

[Mr Folgers]

Rather strange, the markings aren't correct at all, a bit too shady.

It's not a Magnum Research -- Springfield transitional, since theres no trace of the MR markings being ground off, and it is done in a different font then IMI made rifles. The finish also looks off for an IMI MR gun, which has a slight "gloss" to it instead of flat black, but it may be just the camera doing tricks. The finish should be about the same as the dust cover. It also lacks the model number.
A true springfield gun should look like this:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=211650082

It may be a parts kit gun, maybe with the markings added to provide some more authenticity. The fact that you got it for only $1250 also makes me more concerned about it's authenticity.

Post some more pictures!

 

[Che]

Either way, it looks to be an IMI receiver gun that looks very nice. For the price it is an excellent buy, especially if it runs without the complications of a Century Goloni, kit gun or not.

My guess it started life as an not so pretty Galil "Sporter" rifle and someone changed out the furniture. If the rest of the rifle looks like the one photo, you have a winner.

Please post more pictures of the whole rifle.

 

[gbfirearmsales]

Now that MR. Folgers mentions it, I went around looking for what this rifle should look like and sad as it is to say, the markings are way off. It's possible this may even be a ORF receiver engraved with those markings. If that is the case, that would SUCK. I don't see why anyone would screw with an original IMI receiver to change the markings....an IMI to me remains an IMI...unless someone is a real serious dirtbag.

Show us more photos of the whole rifle, to include photos of the receiver from above without the cover on, and from the bottom and right side as well. I hope you didn't get the shaft.

 

[gixxerjockey]

I agree. Something is way off here as Springfield rifles were not kit guns but IMI Action Arms rifles with a recessed area where "Action Arms" is ground off and Springfield was remarked. This recessed area is absent altogether. All other markings (and finish) were left the same as when they were Action Arms rifles. "Sporter" was not marked on Springfield's and are marked by model 386,710,710S, or 329, 329S (308) in Ser #s starting in GS209 or GS210. I do not think this is a Springfield rifle. Lettering looks really close to ORF recvrs. Very interesting.

 

[gbfirearmsales]

I agree. Something is way off here as Springfield rifles were not kit guns but IMI Action Arms rifles with a recessed area where "Action Arms" is ground off and Springfield was remarked. This recessed area is absent altogether. All other markings (and finish) were left the same as when they were Action Arms rifles. "Sporter" was not marked on Springfield's and are marked by model 386,710,710S, or 329, 329S (308) in Ser #s starting in GS209 or GS210. I do not think this is a Springfield rifle. Lettering looks really close to ORF recvrs. Very interesting.

I do want to say that I doubt ORF engraved this receiver. I lean more towards an aftermarket engraver, and a forger as the owner who failed to do better research before having the rifle engraved. If he went through the trouble of having the engraving done, he could have someone mill a small strip like on the originals and have the engraving done inside of the milled area. If they were just trying to create a look alike for personal use, it would have at least looked nicer and closer to original. If they were trying to defraud, shame on them.

 

[Mr Folgers]

I do want to say that I doubt ORF engraved this receiver. I lean more towards an aftermarket engraver, and a forger as the owner who failed to do better research before having the rifle engraved. If he went through the trouble of having the engraving done, he could have someone mill a small strip like on the originals and have the engraving done inside of the milled area. If they were just trying to create a look alike for personal use, it would have at least looked nicer and closer to original. If they were trying to defraud, shame on them.

It is definitely not a legitimate rifle.

It looks like we have our first recorded case of counterfeit Galils.:salute

 

[gbfirearmsales]

It is definitely not a legitimate rifle.

It looks like we have our first recorded case of counterfeit Galils.:salute

For argument sake, lets say it is in fact an ORF piece but engraved. Lets also say that it is in excellent condition with good rifling etc. Whats a fair value in everyones opinion?

 

[Che]

If it is a counterfeit, then I don't think Springfield Armory will be real happy with their name stamped on it.

It looks like a Galil Sporter to me, imported by SA, Inc. All the Goloni receivers seem to have a circle around the pin that is above the fire control (on the left hand side, closer to the top of the receiver). This does not, the receiver looks like my IMI Galil 372.
Anyone else have a Springfield Armory for comparison?

If it shoots like it looks, to me it's a steal at $1200.

 

[gbfirearmsales]

If it is a counterfeit, then I don't think Springfield Armory will be real happy with their name stamped on it.

It looks like a Galil Sporter to me, imported by SA, Inc. All the Goloni receivers seem to have a circle around the pin that is above the fire control (on the left hand side, closer to the top of the receiver). This does not, the receiver looks like my IMI Galil 372.
Anyone else have a Springfield Armory for comparison?

If it shoots like it looks, to me it's a steal at $1200.

I don't know..my brother has a stripped brand new IMI Galil sporter receiver in the white, and it doesnt look like that. It has

GALIL SPORTER
IMI* ISRAEL

emblazoned on its side in large font
Did the ORF receivers have large or small thumb safety lever hole on the left of the receiver?

 

[gixxerjockey]

Looking at pics of orf examples looks like all of them have the large selector hole. Wish we could see the other side of the receiver to see if it has the warning paragraph uzi America used.

 

[brown-j002]

My vote is it's IMI

Extra pictures would help of course, but I'm going to venture a guess that is an IMI receiver. I have never seen an ORF with the area for a scope mount milled correctly such as this one. As for the markings, I have no idea. As for price, I'll just say I have much more in ARM clone.

 

[Ruddiger]

Extra pictures would help of course, but I'm going to venture a guess that is an IMI receiver. I have never seen an ORF with the area for a scope mount milled correctly such as this one.

+1. Not an ORF. I think you got a deal.

 

[itsa_ss]

Thanks for the replys, I will post some more pictures for you guys. what is a ORF receiver?

 

[Blazin]

Thanks for the replys, I will post some more pictures for you guys. what is a ORF receiver?

ORF is the company's name: Ohio Rapid Fire. They are out of business now.