Non-C&R Uzi SMGs reach a new price height.

[prebans]

http://www.subguns.com/classifieds/...sults_format=long&db_id=22090&query=retrieval

New Arrival

SA58285

Uzi, RR, Fleming Like New, Test Fired

$10,995.00

Price includes S&H and Insurance
Florida residents are subject to Florida Sales tax.

Dealernfa, Inc
Ruben Mendiola
President

305-271-3436
866-NFA-WANT
305-499-3674 Fax

$10,995 for a RR Uzi..?

More power to Mr. Mendiola if he gets it, but north of $11k after shipping, dealer transfer fees, and tax? That's a new height for a non-C&R gun if he gets his asking price.

Mike

 

[Hughjimbissel]

I saw the same ad this AM. Kind of sets you back a little. It is easy to say, "Ah, he's way too high" but this is an experienced and professional dealer and he must think he will get that price.

 

[copenhagen]

Goddamn. I thought the 7500 I paid for my like new Vector R/R was ridiculous. Glad I got it as soon as my MG fund had enough to get one.

 

[Philip]

If he gets it mine will go up next lol

 

[pmf]

Non-C&R Uzi? Do C&R eligible uzis exist? I've never seen one. They're either Vectors, or converted IMI semis as far as I've seen.

There's a few dealers who quote pretty steep prices on subguns. Do they really think someone is going to pay $11k for an uzi? Probably not, but if enough people get used to seeing that, $9k won't seem so unreasonable. And I thought I was crazy paying $2759.

 

[Mark.n.chip]

My Flemming conversion showed up to my dealer 3 weeks ago, if that is the going rate my gun just made me $3500. yahooooo!

 

[sig-x]

I sold a nib mini for $9500 recently. Feels like I gave it away now lol.

 

[pmf]

My Flemming conversion showed up to my dealer 3 weeks ago, if that is the going rate my gun just made me $3500. yahooooo!

While waiting the year it took to get mine, the price climber $1000. They're not bad investments. I try telling my wife that, but she just counters with -- so what, you're never going to sell it.

 

[prebans]

My Flemming conversion showed up to my dealer 3 weeks ago, if that is the going rate my gun just made me $3500. yahooooo!

RR or sear?

Mike

 

[prebans]

I sold a nib mini for $9500 recently. Feels like I gave it away now lol.

Well, remember that ASKING and SELLING prices are two distinctly different things.

Still, it gives one pause...

Mike

 

[pmf]

There's a M11/9 on the board for $5800. No accessories, just the gun and one mag. Its not NIB.

 

[9mmsubgun-m11]

Non-C&R Uzi? Do C&R eligible uzis exist? I've never seen one. They're either Vectors, or converted IMI semis as far as I've seen.

There's a few dealers who quote pretty steep prices on subguns. Do they really think someone is going to pay $11k for an uzi? Probably not, but if enough people get used to seeing that, $9k won't seem so unreasonable. And I thought I was crazy paying $2759.

Don't think there are any C&R UZI's. I'm thinking RoverDave talked about some real deal UZI's that were transferable a while back but I can't remember what he said they would sell for. I'm sort of thinking he said in the 15-20K range but I might be way off base.

 

[Mark.n.chip]

Mine is a registered receiver

 

[michaelkih]

That's retarded. i bought a NIB Vector for $7700 just a couple months ago. The prices have NOT gone up that much. Of course eventually prices will reach that high, but it will sit for a while.

 

[ATCDoktor]

That's retarded. i bought a NIB Vector for $7700 just a couple months ago.

Ruben Mendiola is in the business of buying and selling machineguns.

He does it for a living and he must have inventory to sell.

That means he has to scour the country looking for machineguns "for sale" to sell.

Now, I'm not "read" into his scheme of maneuver on how he locates these machineguns he sells but in my mind I see the need for a bit of travelling, attending auctions/estate sales, evaluating weapons etc.

With that in mind, how would any of us know how much he's "got" in that specific UZI?

Who knows how much he paid for it?

Lets just pretend that Ruben bought this specific UZI at auction for what you paid for yours ($7700), add 15% for the buyers premium and that brings it up to $8855, if he had to travel by plane to attend the auction/evaluate the weapon he has to recoup those costs so figure another 1000 for that so now your up to $9855.

Now figure paperork, shipping and insurance and your up another 100-150 bucks so now your up over 10,000.

When you look at it like that, $10995 doesn't sound like a bad price considering what he may have had to "lay out" for that specific UZI.

In this specific scenario, he would have made less than $1000 bucks on the deal and oh by the way, when you buy a gun from Ruben, shipping and insurance is included, so he's gotta recoup that as well.

With all that in mind, when you think about people who buy and sell machineguns for a living, you can see how the overhead can pile up real quick.

Nobody is going to buy and sell machineguns at a loss or just to break even. Ruben is in this game to make money and as ridiculous as most may think his prices are, he's been doing this for nearly 30 years and he's still in business.

That UZI will sell ladies and gents and at a price that makes him money, I guaruntee it.

 

[Samuel_Hoggson]

The dollar is in the toilet. The fed not-so-cleverly disguises this with terms like "quantitative easement".

Tangible assets are like banks of elevators - all going up at different rates, stopping at different floors for a time. One elevator is gold coins, another is antique toys, etc. NFA is a tangible asset elevator, albeit different than other stuff.

But yeah, I get a kick out of having paid $3k for my 1st, and then feeling foolish for paying $6k for my second.

Guess I should hang on.......unless someone can persuade me the dollar will recover.

Sam

 

[rhouston8]

ATCDoc...

All very true concerning Ruben's overhead. But I'd beg to say that most Uzitalk members don't pay "Ruben Prices" for our wares. We just don't. We are more educated I'd like to think. More frugal...know the values better in a way. I don't know who Ruben caters to but he has an exc. reputation and great inventory. But that being said I personally will always buy the $8k Uzi directly from the dude I don't know 3 states over as opposed to going the white tablecloth Ruben avenue. I don't need Ruben's services or subsidize his acquisition for such guns. I don;t care what he makes off each gun. I hope he makes 100%. I'm not jealous. But I do care what I pay for it and there seems to not be enough meat on the bone for both Ruben and myself in a MG transaction. He can demand a premium b/c his reputation and clientele. I seriously doubt any of us here are his typical clients. I think more of the Gunbroker crowd as well as high end collectors being his clients. I could be wrong.

One last note that kinda bothers me but maybe shouldnt. I've seen several of his Uzi RR's lately with BB's in them but no mention of the BB in the otherwise detailed description. Some less educated buyers may be surprised later by this. Caveat Emptor.

 

[pmf]

I think you're paying for an experience when you buy/sell a machine gun from Rubin. On the selling side, you're going to get a lower price than if you post it on the board here for $7700. But you're not going to have any hassle. Nobody saying I'll take it and then backing out. Rubin takes care of the paperwork, shipping, etc. On the buying end, where there's more downside, you're paying more than $7700 to know that things will go smoothly and you won't get taken advantage of. That happened to me once and it wasn't fun. To some people, avoiding the hassles or potential risks is worth the extra money.

 

[bac0nfat]

Ruben Mendiola is in the business of buying and selling machineguns.

He does it for a living and he must have inventory to sell.

That means he has to scour the country looking for machineguns "for sale" to sell.

Now, I'm not "read" into his scheme of maneuver on how he locates these machineguns he sells but in my mind I see the need for a bit of travelling, attending auctions/estate sales, evaluating weapons etc.

With that in mind, how would any of us know how much he's "got" in that specific UZI?

Who knows how much he paid for it?

Lets just pretend that Ruben bought this specific UZI at auction for what you paid for yours ($7700), add 15% for the buyers premium and that brings it up to $8855, if he had to travel by plane to attend the auction/evaluate the weapon he has to recoup those costs so figure another 1000 for that so now your up to $9855.

Now figure paperork, shipping and insurance and your up another 100-150 bucks so now your up over 10,000.

When you look at it like that, $10995 doesn't sound like a bad price considering what he may have had to "lay out" for that specific UZI.

In this specific scenario, he would have made less than $1000 bucks on the deal and oh by the way, when you buy a gun from Ruben, shipping and insurance is included, so he's gotta recoup that as well.

With all that in mind, when you think about people who buy and sell machineguns for a living, you can see how the overhead can pile up real quick.

Nobody is going to buy and sell machineguns at a loss or just to break even. Ruben is in this game to make money and as ridiculous as most may think his prices are, he's been doing this for nearly 30 years and he's still in business.

That UZI will sell ladies and gents and at a price that makes him money, I guaruntee it.

Any businessman who flies across the country just to buy one gun at auction is an idiot, and I seriously doubt that an experienced gun dealer like Ruben is wasting that much overhead. If he does fly to auctions, I'm sure he's probably leaving with 10 guns, not one.

 

[copenhagen]

Any businessman who flies across the country just to buy one gun at auction is an idiot, and I seriously doubt that an experienced gun dealer like Ruben is wasting that much overhead. If he does fly to auctions, I'm sure he's probably leaving with 10 guns, not one.

Nah, Ruben and Frank are like predatory lenders. Log onto Subguns or Sturmgewehr and you will find out that they make their money with crafty adverts aimed at widows who want to easily get "95% market value" cash up front after their hubby dies and are too lazy to do their own leg work and too damned stingy to let the grand kids inherit it like grandpa wanted.