Old MPA rifle

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Thinking of selling my old MPA 9mm rifle since I SBR’d my pistol. It is the one next to the Uzi in the pic.

Side cocker with top rail. No model number at all. Really heavy barrel and comp. Takes AR handguards.

I have not seen any on Gunbroker or anywhere else. Are these hard to find? Worth much?
 

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the "brick" mac is no longer being made by MPA and they go for crazy amounts now,
that being said $700+ is more realistic now a days
 

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this pistol 9mm version recently sold for 630


That’s a 45 and they’re way more desirable than the MPA930 that OP is inquiring about. Nobody has made one of those M10 clones in a while, the VMAC is rarely available. 630 is fairly low for that MPA10, they normally go for 7-1000. that MPA930 carbine is worth less, 5-800 most likely
 

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I saw a 930SST (mini pistol side cocker Sten mag) like I have go for over $1,300 twice on Gunbroker recently.

These things are getting crazy in price. Why?

I don’t like the style that takes Glock mags.

Anyways. Was the rifle version I have a very early MPA? Looking to get some info on it since I can’t even search the model number since it does not have one.

Edit to add.

Second one I have seen lately for this amount.
 

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I have that same carbine upper on a SWD semi M11/9 lower, except mine has an AR carbine stock on it and quad rail handguards. The upper by itself when new was around $400+/-.
I haven't seen any for sale and they are out of production, and pistol caliber carbines are still extremely popular.
Based on that I would initially ask a premium price for it. You can always come down in price if there is no interest at the upper tier price level.
If it were me I would start at $1600 and see if anyone bites. I also would let it sit there for awhile at that price level before I dropped it a bit.
 

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I saw a 930SST (mini pistol side cocker Sten mag) like I have go for over $1,300 twice on Gunbroker recently.

These things are getting crazy in price. Why?

I don’t like the style that takes Glock mags.

Anyways. Was the rifle version I have a very early MPA? Looking to get some info on it since I can’t even search the model number since it does not have one.

Edit to add.

Second one I have seen lately for this amount.
I’d be very Leary of the sellers on GB with the bright red velvet background… I’m not sure which one it is, but I’ve watched the GB auctions for years and there is a pretty consistent trend amongst at least one of the sellers with the bright red velvet background, lots of shill bidding.

That auction absolutely does not represent the current going rate on these guns, especially not a standard 930. The mini is much more valuable, they were only ever made by MPA, and only briefly. Nobody else ever made a mini 11/9, and it’s a desirable gun.

The standard 930 is just an M11/9 clone and they are a dime a dozen. With a properly marketed and featured listing you could get around a grand for that carbine but Id say normal going rate would be around 700.

Even the original Cobray carbines sell for much lower than the pistols. People want the pistols that look like the SMG, MAC carbines have never been a best selling item. I personally love the way the old retro original M10 and M11 carbines look, but most people think the carbines are ugly. The original SWD M11/9 semi auto pistols seem to go for around a grand these days, but the original SWD 11/9 carbines always sell for a lot less despite being somewhat collectible at this point.

Your carbine may be on the Early-ish side but it’s not the earliest model they made, the really early ones did not come with the AR15 handguards and didn’t accept AR15 handguards. Best way to figure out when it was made is the location. Carrollton, comer, brasleton etc etc, MPA moved around quite a bit and it makes it easier to date them depending on which location they were at when the gun was marked.

Source: I have a small parts/accessories business and I do a lot of selling on GB, mostly all of my business is on GB… and I only really sell MAC stuff, so I watch the auctions and the market very closely and have been for the last few years.
 
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Y'all, if you have a semi Mac and it's worth $1,300, especially a carbine, I hope you sell it.
 
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The thing about the longer barreled carbines is that they turn a Mac into not quite a tack-driver, but WAY more accurate than the average shooter like me can achieve with the stock short barrel. The first time I shot a select-fire M10/9 with a carbine upper I took a single shot at a 10-12" diameter stump that was in a pond approximately a football field away. I was shocked how easy it was to hit it time after time just using the factory sights. After that I started buying carbine uppers in 9mm and 45acp for all my Macs. Now they are much harder to come by, but there are people that realize their value out there looking for them. Thats why I would price it higher than most folks would think is "fair market". You may have to keep it up for sale for awhile, but it will sell eventually
 

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The thing about the longer barreled carbines is that they turn a Mac into not quite a tack-driver, but WAY more accurate than the average shooter like me can achieve with the stock short barrel. The first time I shot a select-fire M10/9 with a carbine upper I took a single shot at a 10-12" diameter stump that was in a pond approximately a football field away. I was shocked how easy it was to hit it time after time just using the factory sights. After that I started buying carbine uppers in 9mm and 45acp for all my Macs. Now they are much harder to come by, but there are people that realize their value out there looking for them. Thats why I would price it higher than most folks would think is "fair market". You may have to keep it up for sale for awhile, but it will sell eventually
This^^^

Carbine uppers can be more valuable… when they are sold separately from the gun. People want to purchase them as upgrades for their SMG or semi auto, but people almost always want the classic looking pistol configuration when they actually buy the gun itself.

I have bought and sold a handful of various MAC carbine uppers on GB over the last couple years, they are indeed valuable and they’re one of my favorite items to collect. I personally think the old Mac looks awesome with a carbine top on it. Mind you I am referring to vintage hard to find original RPB or SWD carbine uppers, not the newer MPA stuff… I’ve seen newer MPA or FTF carbine uppers selling for around 300, along with the used SWD M11/9 carbine uppers.

When people are shopping for the gun itself, they tend to think the carbine is ugly and limiting (can’t put a short barrel on it)… but the pistol can be a pistol or a carbine as an upgrade. a closed bolt semi auto m11/9 frame that’s papered as a carbine is not as desirable. There is currently at least one of the carbines on GB, I think it has a BIN in the low 1000s which is high for a carbine and nobody is gonna go for it, but I have seen mint new old stock original M11/9 SWD 16” carbine uppers go for upwards of $700 to collectors/enthusiasts on GB (started at .99, it was not my asking price), and the steel “T stocks” go for $100.., Meanwhile I regularly see complete M11/9 carbines selling for 5-700 for the entire gun.


EDIT: the gun on GB is priced at 1950 for an SWD CM11/9 carbine and it will never sell at that price for a million years.


Gonna use this as an opportunity to shamelessly show off my favorite M10 carbine tops , disregard the text, the photo was used in a listing for the display stand.

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Well if someone is asking 1950 for theirs and you want to sell it ask 1850.

Hundo cheaper and keeps both guns in the price ballpark.

Hell there are two DPB straight ans on GB right now for 3k each a 9 & 45.
Not even the two stage classic look.

Your carbine is cool just not for me.
I have a NIB SWD M11/9 semi I didn't even want and I'll never shoot.

If it were a M10 45 upper I'd have a interest in your carbine.
 
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