RPB throwing knives and MAC bayonets

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I'm a bayonet collector and recently came into one of the M11/9 Carbine bayonets. It has the unthreaded socket that secures with a threaded nut. However, the nut is missing from my example. It is pictured on my bayonet site at

M11/Nine Socket Bayonet

I wanted to obtain the correct size nut but am finding conflicting information regarding the threads on the carbine barrel. This thread indicates 5/8-24. The following thread indicates 9/16-18 https://www.uzitalk.com/forums/index.php?threads/m11-9-barrel-thread-question.55369/

I just wanted to confirm the correct thread for the nut. Any help is most appreciated.

Ralph
Its 9/16

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Thank You!
Great info on your bayonet site and a very good accurate write-up on that Cobray bayonet. Love that you found it in the original box! RARE! they used to come with the hex nut stacked underneath the wingnut that holds the blade to the mounting bracket, it does indeed appear yours is missing unfortunately. It should not be too difficult to come up with a suitable replacement.

It’s difficult to find the carbine barrels with the threaded barrel for the bayonet, not all of the threaded carbine barrels are the correct profile even with the threads. The one that was designed for the bayonet has a barrel that has a larger diameter lug that’s relief cut immediately behind the barrel threads to facilitate the mounting of the bayonet tube.

The tube has a step down/countersink inside of it that allows it to slip over and butt up against the lug on the barrel. I have seen very few of the correctly profiled barrels for the bayonet out there.

Thanks for sharing your bayonet and for accurately documenting it on your site! There’s virtually no info on these out there so it’s great to see that!
 

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I was just looking everywhere for one of these. Totally impractical, But I gotta get one lol
The thrower? Or the bayonet? I just sold one of the throwers on GB about a week ago… they’re not too difficult to come across,
The bayonets are damn near impossible to get, forged from pure unobtanium (they’re made from the throwing knife blades, but extremely rare)
 

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The thrower? Or the bayonet? I just sold one of the throwers on GB about a week ago… they’re not too difficult to come across,
The bayonets are damn near impossible to get, forged from pure unobtanium (they’re made from the throwing knife blades, but extremely rare)
Oh just the knife. They are one ebay at crazy prices I didn't even know it was a bayonet. That's sweet
 

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Oh just the knife. They are one ebay at crazy prices I didn't even know it was a bayonet. That's sweet
Yeah they usually sell for around $300, often more. I recently let one go for a little under $200 on GB and was kinda disappointed I didn’t get more for it to be honest. Especially since it was the earlier RPB marked version and not the more common (and less collectible) SWD marked version that FTF was selling recently for 150 bucks as “new old stock”, (though I believe they were only recently completed from new old stock components).
 

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Not to get Religious, but there is also a throwing knife from SWD as well. I do own the M10 9mm bayonet as well. Fun stuff.

I discussed the SWD mfg version in my original post in this thread that covers all the history of these.


Check the first post with all the pics and info.
 
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No worries, the picture I sent wasn't to focus on the throwing star, but of the lower part which is a single piece with both ends pointed. I didn't notice that in the original post. I bought it on Gunbroker years ago and haven't seen one since.
 

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No worries, the picture I sent wasn't to focus on the throwing star, but of the lower part which is a single piece with both ends pointed. I didn't notice that in the original post. I bought it on Gunbroker years ago and haven't seen one since.
I couldn’t quite tell what that was, I thought you were referring to the standard 4 blade throwing knife above it. I don’t believe that single blade with 2 pointed ends was a factory item. Looks like someone may have welded two of the blades together into one? A closer pic of the other end would be helpful to see how it was constructed. Interesting. I’ve never seen another either and it’s never been advertised in any of the old catalogs.



Thanks for sharing!


ETA:

Another one of these exists, I saw pictures of it, so it must be something factory made, but I don’t know when and I can’t find any advertising for it or any mention of it in a price list or sales material, so I have no clue when it was done, but it does appear to be a factory made item, I’m thinking maybe right before they decided to chop them up into bayonets and didn’t know what they wanted to do with them at that point, but there is indeed at least one more of those 2 ended pointed blades out there!

The other one that I know of came from a guy (also from gunbroker) that I got a few Cobray bayonets from a few years back, he had a bunch of late 80s era Cobray items, all SWD, that had supposedly come out the back door from a former employee. Many of the items he had, including some of the MAC bayonets in various calibers like 45 etc, were never actually advertised and may have been prototypes. It may have been the same person you got yours from.
 
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Where does one pick up one of the winged nut throwing knives?
Not sure what I'd do with it besides lose it in the field and have to get the metal detector out to find it every time I miss the tree!

Or are they to expensive now to be tossing at trees now?
 

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Did they make the bayonets for the M11/A1?
Yes. I’ve had a 5/8x11 threaded bayonet. They apparently made them in all of the different thread pitches for 380, 9 and 45. I e had examples of each size, but I’m not sure when they made them and I’ve never seen them advertised in any other size besides the M11/9 carbine bayonet that was held on using a seperate hex nut. I think the other sizes may have been sold by Special Weapons Distributors in the late 80s, which was Wayne’s son, Buddy’s business.

All of the bayonets I’ve seen, along with the double ended throwing knives, came from one source on gunbroker a few years ago who had a bunch that were supposedly factory leftovers from a former employee. I have never seen any other examples of the 9mm, 380 and 45 bayonets anywhere else.. they are a factory item from what it seems, but they are rare, possibly prototypes and I have no evidence that SWD ever actually advertised them in any configuration other the M11/9 carbine example that threaded on with a seperate hex nut on the fine barrel threads. The 9, 380 and 45 bayonets are basically a thread protector that screws onto the barrel and attaches to the blade.

Where does one pick up one of the winged nut throwing knives?
Not sure what I'd do with it besides lose it in the field and have to get the metal detector out to find it every time I miss the tree!

Or are they to expensive now to be tossing at trees now?

You can find them on eBay for $300+ , FTF had some “new old stock” that were seemingly brand new manufacture from original components a year or 2 ago, for $150. They had sold out, but found some more and restocked for a while, but they have since sold out again a while ago and haven’t found any more of them it seems.

I took one of the old RPB units out into the woods last winter and tossed it around, wasn’t sharp enough to get it to stick into a tree, even with a lot of force (almost lost it in 3 feet of snow and had to do some serious digging to recover it) but the newer SWD knives with the black pouches that FTF was selling are likely good to go, they have nice edges and aren’t as rare/collectible as the RPB marked examples with the green/camo/leather sheaths.
 

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