RR Repair Question

[y2k87k2000]

Can anyone tell me who I can send my RR to get welded? One of the "ears" cracked behind the trigger.

 

[jt526]

try m60joe, he does that sort of thing, and has an excellent reputation (as far as I am aware).

http://m60joe.com/

 

[beltfed]

+1 on m60joe he’s the man

 

[Vegas SMG]

One of the "ears" cracked behind the trigger.

Another vote for contacting M-60 Joe to see if he can/will do this. http://m60joe.com/

We need photos of the damage! How did it happen? What brand of receiver, etc.
Details and photos..... PLEASE!

 

[y2k87k2000]

I know m60joe does good work, he did my 9mm bolt ramp and weight. I emailed him about two weeks ago and no reply just yet. I'm not talking bad about him at all.

 

[s0b3]

those trigger guard ears are fragile if you don't have them supported while driving the roll pin. lucky it's not a load bearing part. some people that have broken them on semi autos just run a magpul MIAD with the integrated trigger guard so you don't need the rear ear. being a RR and worth a whole lot more, you probably want it repaired. good luck, it's a pretty easy fix from what i've seen/read.

i think a hole is drilled into each part, a rod inserted to keep the 2 pieces together and then welded and then reanodized.

 

[Vegas SMG]

I know m60joe does good work, he did my 9mm bolt ramp and weight. I emailed him about two weeks ago and no reply just yet. I'm not talking bad about him at all.

Yeah he ramped a 9mm bolt for me in addition to some other work. I know he has kids and they go camping from time to time. With school being out for the summer it's possible you may have just missed him. I'll bet he should be back any day.

Thanks for the photo. I know many others will appreciate it too. What manufacturer is your RR?

 

[trek45]

Oh man, that sucks. I go back and forth on getting a Colt M16, but it's things like this that give me second thoughts.

 

[hkg3k]

Oh man, that sucks. I go back and forth on getting a Colt M16, but it's things like this that give me second thoughts.

Which is why you should be thinking RDIAS.

 

[AZ Doug]

RDIAS is a good option, but I would not shy away from a registered receiver. I would go with whatever I could get a deal on. If the OP still has the missing piece it can be TIG welded easily. If not it can still be repaired, just not as easily.

I have two Oly registered receivers.(I wasn't in the market for the second, but couldn't pass up the deal) Just performed some machine work to both. One had to have a pin hole welded and re-drilled because it was in the wrong location. The "top shelf," where the upper mates to the lower between the take down pins, of both had to be machined down as Oly's are notoriously out of spec in that area. Now they will accept "Mil Spec" uppers without modification. Hopefully I will get them re-anodized next week.

Point being, they can be rebuilt, so don't shy away from them.

I would go with M60Joe as I have nothing but good things about him. Everyone seems to be satisfied with his work.

 

[trek45]

Which is why you should be thinking RDIAS.

I actually have a steel DIAS, in addition to a GI SS M16. But I keep thinking that over the long term, Colts will be more desirable. Kinda like how C&R Thompsons are more desirable than West Hurley Thompsons. The only thing holding me back is the aluminum, and threads like this.

 

[hkg3k]

Point being, they can be rebuilt, so don't shy away from them.

Understand........my point was with the RDIAS, there is no worry about re-building, re-specing or re-pairing an aging and in many cases a well worn aluminum receiver. With a RDIAS, if your current host gets damaged, worn or just no loner appealing to your eye.......just toss it and get another A2-spec cherry lower. Cost is way less to replace an AR15 lower than re-working a transferable lower.......not to mention the value drop on a repaired registered receiver.

I actually have a steel DIAS, in addition to a GI SS M16. But I keep thinking that over the long term, Colts will be more desirable. Kinda like how C&R Thompsons are more desirable than West Hurley Thompsons. The only thing holding me back is the aluminum, and threads like this.

If you have a steel RDIAS and Group SS RR, then IMO you've got it covered. If you want another M16, then just get another RDIAS. Factory Colts are nice, I used to have a couple.....but I replaced them and a couple conversion RRs all with RDIAS'. I just wish I had my epiphany sooner.....that way I might have made money on the swaps rather than just breaking even.

Sears are more versatile and will be less prone to wear or damage over time. The market recognizes this so they will always hold their value and be more liquid comparatively speaking. How long do RDIAS' last once advertised? How many WTB RDIAS ads have you seen lately?

If you're a pure collector, factory Colts would be a better fit for your tastes.......if you're a shooter, then the RDIAS is by far the best option.

 

[M60joe]

I emailed him about two weeks ago and no reply just yet. I'm not talking bad about him at all.

I don't take 2 weeks to get back!!!!!! Not even 2 days.

E-mail again.

thanks

 

[y2k87k2000]

Thanks m60joe for the update.

The RR is a frankford arsenal. I supported the ears on a bench and it moved from the bench while I was taking out the trigger guard pin. Pissedoffness ensued for a day. But I still placed second in the open division at UT7 with that gun.

 

[A&S Conversions]

"Colts will be more desirable. Kinda like how C&R Thompsons are more desirable than West Hurley Thompsons."

Colt is more desirable because, other than a few Oly RRs that where "repaired" by replacing the receivers (which can no longer be done), Colt RR are the only receivers originally built to be a RR. All other M16 RRs are semi auto receivers that were converted to full auto.

BTW, IMHO the West Hurley guns are priced lower because of the quality of the builds. Just like the Colt guns, C&R Thompsons were built for military and Law Enforcement use. The quality that is demanded by the Govt. and LE means the original guns were of a higher quality. The first West Hurley guns were built from parts left over from WW II. As those parts were used up fairly quickly. So Auto Ordinance started to make new parts. Without Uncle Sam over their shoulder, the quality of the West Hurley parts suffered. The West Hurley guns were made for collectors only. If a PD wanted a Thompson, they could get one for free from Uncle Sam. A NIB West Hurley, doesn't mean the gun will run. Most of these guns need some GI parts to run right. My cousin has a 1984 '28. His receiver was out of spec. He had to pay to have it fixed and buy some GI parts to get it to run right.

Any manufactured item that has a history of bad quality control during manufacturing will tend to sell for less than a similar item that has been made to high quality standards. There is certainly a collector appeal to an item tied to an event. The OA and Savage built Thompsons are all tied to WW II in some way. Just as Colt Thompsons are tied to a lesser or greater extent to "Gangsters" and Prohibition. A HK 94 will sell for two to three times that of a clone roller locked gun. There is a collector aspect of the fact that that gun hasn't been imported into the US for around 20 years. But if the HK guns were of poor quality and the clones were of much better quality, that HK wouldn't sell for double the price.

Scott

 

[bwsmg]

Stan Andrewski (S.G.S.) 603-746-4387

Stan has a long track record of rebuilding all types of receivers. He realigned my MP40 receiver and redesigned a soumi coffin mag well to a Olyp.M16 RR receiver. Also he has repaired many M16 dewalts from years past that others screwed up...! He's turn around may be slow sometimes, but that's want happens when your in high demand.

 

[ateamrob]

Which is why you should be thinking RDIAS.

I could be way off here and I know that the RDIAS have some serious versatility but I would be a lot more worried about that LITTLE peice of metal wearing or breaking than I would a RR. RRs dont normally break because there typically is not much wear and tear on them. Typically speaking. Obviously this case is a little different and rare in my opinion.

When people change out their firing control parts in the receivers they do it because the parts wore. I dont see how the RDIAS is any less to wear than a sear, hammer or spring. When they do wear that tiny little 10K peice of metal scares me.

I will stay with my RR any day of the week.

my 2 cents,

Rob

 

[prebans]

Stan Andrewski (S.G.S.) 603-746-4387

Stan has a long track record of rebuilding all types of receivers. He realigned my MP40 receiver and redesigned a soumi coffin mag well to a Olyp.M16 RR receiver. Also he has repaired many M16 dewalts from years past that others screwed up...! He's turn around may be slow sometimes, but that's want happens when your in high demand.

This is very true. Stan Andrewski fixed two guns for me; a Reising with a rear "post" whose weld broke and a Stemple 76/45 with a list of problems.*

*One issue remains- not hollering at Mr. Andrewski, as I only found out about the remaining issue this morning.

M60Joe is also a solid choice. He repaired a poorly converted Oly for me.

You won't go wrong with either guy.

Mike

 

[trek45]

I dont see how the RDIAS is any less to wear than a sear, hammer or spring. When they do wear that tiny little 10K peice of metal scares me.

The DIAS wouldn't be the part wearing - the sear trip would. And they can be replaced. In fact, I have 4 of them for my DIAS. I'm sure the DIAS will outlive me. Also, with an aluminum RR, I'd be concerned about damaging it if I put if down on a nail or tool or something. With a DIAS, I can toss the lower if it gets ugly or if I want new whiz-bang features - like all the ambi lowers cropping up.

 

[chili17]

Norrel might be worth a try as well