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Recently sold a number of guns that I no longer use or in which I no longer have interest, and invested in a SIG 556. In the photo above it wear a Bushnell Trophy MP red/green selectable inverted T reticle 1X optic. I've had one of these on a Bushmaster M4gery for almost a year and it's been a solid performer; perfect for my halfway to 106 eyes. Each green and red reticle has five selectable intensities for different light conditions. It holds zero like JB Weld.

I haven't had the time to take the 556 to the range yet, but from what a few owners have told me, it's very easy to keep on target. More to come . . .

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I wish it had a more traditional SIG folding stock. :poke

Are those iron sights on the front end of it? Are they coming with those now ?
 

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I kinda wish it had a traditional stock, too, but to tell the truth the collapsable is more practical, IMO. I may change the stock to one of those Magpul things, dunno. Nice thing is, any AR stock can fit it.

It does have front and rear BUIS sights. The rear is a thin leaf that's recessed in the back end of the sight rail.

The HGs are a little on the bulky side, they flare into palm swells at the lower half.

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Noah- I have used my SIG 556 thru 2000 rounds now with all smiles.

Be advised that the rear pin has a tendency to dance out.......replaced them with non SIG pins front and rear , found them on AR-15.com .

The only other advise I can give you is the side rear by the ejection port will get scuffed from the brass, no big deal but its a sign a shooting it.

Feel and trigger pull is first rate vs the AR-15 platform

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FALCON 1 said:
Noah- I have used my SIG 556 thru 2000 rounds now with all smiles.

Be advised that the rear pin has a tendency to dance out.......replaced them with non SIG pins front and rear , found them on AR-15.com .

The only other advise I can give you is the side rear by the ejection port will get scuffed from the brass, no big deal but its a sign a shooting it.

Feel and trigger pull is first rate vs the AR-15 platform

FALCON 1


Were your replacement pins made by Aurora Industries?
 

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Noah-

I am looking at buying my first AR right now. Would you suggest the SIG over any others, and if so, why?

Also, I understand the SIG has the gas system similar to the H&K 416- is this correct?

But let me say, your rifle is very sharp looking.
 
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I took the 556 out this morning and shot it alongside a Bushmaster M4gery AR with 14.5" barrel and permanent Izzy FH. Both weapons each wore Bushnell Trophy MP optics. After I sighted in the 556 using RG surplus ammo, both it and the AR were equal in terms of hitting the target. Most of the time I was aiming at a black spot in the 200 yd berm and hitting it every time with either the 556 or the AR. So in terms of practical accuracy they are equal.

The 556 manual says it's 7,8 lbs. The Bushy AR is just under 7 lbs. In the hand the 556 does NOT feel appreciably heavier. It DOES feel "bulkier" due to the bulky HG as compared to the large-diameter M4 HGs on the AR.

The 556 wears some of its weight forward as is expected from a piston-driven gun. This is a little hard on the weak arm, but getting the weapon on target and keeping it there is easier with the front-heavier 556 than the AR.

Felt recoil comparison was surprising. The 556 does NOT have as much perceived recoil as does the M4gery. The AR's recoil was noticeably sharper and more "harsh" as compared to that of the SIG 556.

Ejection from the AR was typical AR, the empties formed a pile about 8-10 feet to the right of the weapon, and about two feet behind. Ejection from the 556 was typical Kalashnikov-like, fairly robust and violent, with the empties landing THREE SHOOTING BENCHES TO THE RIGHT and slightly forward. The 556 is NOT a range-friendly gun in this regard and had anyone been seated at the three benches to the right, they would have been peppered with hot brass. And this was with the gas setting on "1" or "Normal". So if buying a SIG 556, keep in mind that you want to be on the RIGHT of everyone else at the range.

The major asset of the 556 is it's two-stage trigger. There's some takeup to a stop, not unlike that of a Mauser, then the trigger breaks cleanly and with little force. Very "Match Rifle-like" in feel and effect. OTOH, the AR trigger is, well, like an AR. Fairly long pull and then "BANG." Personally, I like a two-stage trigger on a rifle, but I haven't invested in two-stage setups for my ARs yet. It's on the list.

As far as the HK 416 gas system, I don't know the details of that. The SIG's gas system consists of a SS tube in which the piston rides. The gas tube plug is skirted, with the skirt enclosing the head of the gas piston. The plug is a selector between "normal" and "dirty" settings. "Normal" is when the gas plug's "handle" is vertical, and "dirty" is when the gas plug is turned about 25-30 degrees clockwise when facing it. The "dirty" setting has a slightly larger port opening. In functionality, gas is tapped off the barrel and passes through one of the two"normal" or "dirty" small holes in the gas tube plug skirt and into a hole in the side of the head of the gas piston itself. The hole in the gas piston head is ported to the front face of the piston rod, where it impinges on the inside of the gas tube plug, and forces the gas piston rearward to unlock the carrier and bolt. Hope this helps.

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nice Noah -

the 556 is next on the list for me, although I've gotta change out the Darth Vader butt and handguards.

Will the real 551 handguards pop right on or is there some work involved?

How can I order from Gun Factory? I hit the English button but it was all German.
 

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Swiss Hanguards

The original swiss handguards DO just pop right on. I just received mine from Gun Factory. I like the swiss handguards much better than the SigArms factory. Much thinner and comfortable to hold. Mine also wears a Magpul PRS stock.

I e-mailed Gun Factory and they responded in english. Charged my credit card and had the handguards in three weeks.
 

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Stoop's talking about this one; my 556 post-surgery:

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Endless: You're very welcome!

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Well I may be buying one today. I have a couple questions though. It says these have a 1/7 twist bbl. How does that shoot with 55gr ammo? I ask as that is what the bulk of my .223 ammo is.

Has anyone tried putting an ACE side folder on these? I was thinking you could use one of the ACE side adapters and then run a Galil style stock on it. This would be both for looks and function.

I am not planning on putting an optic on this rifle. The rear flip up site looks very weak. Do you know if the AR rail mount rear sites are the correct height to use with the Sig front site?



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John:

1:7 works just fine with 55 gr, if my 556 is any indication.

I've seen ACE folding setups on 556s pictured in other forums sites. Makes a nice looking, balanced setup. I'd recommend folding to the left so that access to the cocking handle is not blocked. I may still got that route yet, but for now the A1 stock stays.

Any AR-height BUIS rear with work with the SIG factory front in the dovetail. The ARMS #40 is a TIGHT fit on the SIG rail. Some say the SIG rail is out of spec, I wonder if the ARMS #40 is, because rear BUIS from OTHER mfrs fit OK.

HTH,

Noah
 

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Awsome that make me feel better.

Local gun shop has one that he had another guy say he wants. If that buyer falls through it is mine. I know I can order one anytime, but this one is here :angel . I am very bad about impulse buys. This is one of the "SWAT" series with the rails. It does come with the grip, flashlight, and Magpul stock, but I like the rails the most.





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Did anything ever come of the Sig 556 pistols? I think they showed one off at one of the SHOT shows. I'd buy one of those for a SBR project in a heartbeat.

To find the 551 handguards go to www.gunfactory.ch and then in the dropdown list go to:

Langwaffen (long arms):
-SIG Sturmgewehre: Zweibeinstutzen, Wangenauflagen

Schwarz = black
Grun = green

Why are the green ones less than half the price of the black ones? :smart


Damn you people I'm thinking of getting a SIG556 too now...
 

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boofus said:
Why are the green ones less than half the price of the black ones? :smart


Demand for black ones from the US -- 556 owners.

I ordered a set of green ones from them and already bought a box of black RIT dye at the grocery . . .

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I was able to handle one of these and man it is an awesome feeling weapon. This would be high up on my list to purchase if I did not have several 223 weapons already.
 

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Well I got it today. I will post some pics in a couple days when I get home and on a high speed line :)









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Why couldn't sig just make a 551 clone instead? If they did I bet they would be selling a lot more. I think the OP's gun is nice, but to me it looks like another AR. Especially the tele stock. To be honest, sure, the tele stock might be more practical compared to a sidefolder, but I'll be the first to admit that I buy a lot of guns cause I like the way they look. I love the look of the old Sig that we never got, but the Canadians still get.
 
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