Super Safety Review

[ericthered]

https://www.freedomfingertriggers.com/installation

https://www.reddit.com/r/fosscad/comments/1jmep1o

 

[strobro32]

Call me when the Glock version is perfected and select fire.

Like the American automobile companies, the first year buyers are the beta testers.

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

One of these things is $50K or so. The other is $1500 or so.

Guess which one is not getting shot anymore? ?



The pistol/SS is an old Coharie clone. I had to work on the skoprints lower to get it to fit. The shelf is much larger than the HK shelf.

 

[strobro32]

Nice. I'm sure the AR FCG has a much better trigger.

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

I haven’t taken the time to work on (figure out?) how to make SS triggers better. It’s about the same as the HK trigger

Any ideas? I’m assuming that it has to do with tuning the reset side of the trigger extension/tail?

 

[strobro32]

I just meant that the AR trigger has always been better than the MP5. I have not shot a SS MP5 trigger but the ROF on Youtube seems to be faster than a real MP5 SMGs.

 

[strobro32]

22LR perfection escapes me but getting closer.

I think 12 -16" barrels may be the best bet but I will leave that to someone else to figure out.

I'm at 99% reliable. The CMMG "dedicated" BCG is more reliable than the Bore Buddy BCG.

Anderson pistol lower (make sure the lower has a low shelf, where the pocket behind the selector shaft is lower than the selector shaft)
Magpul pistol brace
RTB dedicated CMMG 9" upper
CMMG BCG
Borbuddy charging handle
Borebuddy (steel/aluminum) adjustable Super Safety trip kit
Bore Buddy pressure plug in front of the buffer
GMR Super Safety
CMMG stainless bolt weight
15-22 mags
15-22 AR22 magwell clip
Blackdog 15-22 50 rd drum -The Black dog drum is running better than the 15-22 mags and is a lot of fun.
CCI MM 40 gr RN ran well

I still get stoppages in the Super Safe mode but no dead triggers.
When I do get stoppages in the 15-22 mags, they are usually in the first 3 cartridges until the mag wears in.
SOP seems to be shooting 1-2 rounds in Semi and then mag dumps or bursts in SS. That's gets me to 99.5% reliable

 

[jt526]

One of these things is $50K or so. The other is $1500 or so.

Guess which one is not getting shot anymore? ?

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The pistol/SS is an old Coharie clone. I had to work on the skoprints lower to get it to fit. The shelf is much larger than the HK shelf.

Got all my bits and bobs on the way for this. Printing a Leber V2 lower. The safety sucks so bad on the MP5 I am pretty sure that the push style safety is a step up.

 

[saxon]

Tried it on two different ar's in 45acp will not work is ss with FM 45 bolt
the bolt does not go back far enough to reset and i mean not by much.
looking at the bolt it looks like the geometry is off enough to not let it get back far enough under recoil
even tried changing buffer tube for longer length, might have to print out the lever with a thinker tail by at least an 1/8 of an inch.
am going to try it on the CMMG 45 upper tomorrow as it seems to work and the bolt is almost geodetically the same as a standard ar bolt
and does function with BCH

 

[strobro32]

My 5" CMMG 45 Banshee pistol works 98-99%. I used a H3 buffer and it slowed down the ROF. It works best with the 13 rd G21 mags and KCI 26 round mags than the Glock 13+ 17 Kriss extensions. I'm just not sure if I can get all 26 rounds in some of the KCI mags. About 3 out of 6 KCI mags only take 25 rds. Korean RWB mags are completely unreliable in the Glock 21 and will not fit the magwell of the 45 CMMG.

 

[saxon]

should have added running suppressed, the cmmg rifle was not resetting either but i also for got factory ammo was defiantly short stroking the sub rounds, will try again tomorrow also these are GG lowers and on glock

 

[Slowmo]

I’ve seen some reports that a company is trying to get the super safety taken off the market for alleged patent infringement.

 

[strobro32]

also these are GG lowers and on glock

I'm not sure what that is. Have pics or a link?

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

I’ve seen some reports that a company is trying to get the super safety taken off the market for alleged patent infringement.

It looks like it’s happening. The little guys don’t have the $ to fight a patent case.

 

[hkg3k]

Who's claiming patent infringement?

 

[Slowmo]

Who's claiming patent infringement?

A company called ABC, who allegedly has ties to an FRT manufacturer.

 

[strobro32]

Links?

 

[ericthered]

Hoffman had previously released another frt design, that he did receive and comply with a c&d on. After that he designed the SS.

 

[Slowmo]

Links?

A user named “supersafety24” on Reddit has posted a lot of the relevant documents.

 

[strobro32]

Thank you
Interesting. ABC LP, LLC is Rarebreed. RB claims they own the patents for "ALL" FRT type triggers. They have sent out C&D letters to all small SS makers.

The SS has less parts, functions more reliably, and is much cheaper than RB's FRT-15 trigger. If this is true RB has lost my support.

I'm excited to see more people working on the M&P 15-22 SS trip.