Super Safety Review
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So with that 100k from RB
Add in all the SS and other cassette FRT stuff.
Hell leave out the 3d printing guys and ya the 200K mark was met & surpassed a while ago.
reason I say leave out the 3d guys is I look at it like this.
When I print 1/10 scale traffic cones for my RC cars I can get 100 on the print bed. The SS lever & safety barrel are smaller so once they have a profile that runs it's just cut, copy, paste until the print bed is full.
That's probably 150 complete push barrels and levers per print on the conservitive side.
NOW that's a lotta MEATBALLS!
Once the super safety has passed legal muster to the point that liability insurance and such would approve them, all one has to do is design a variant that will only work with an SS. A commercial manufacturer produces such a weapon now you have a firearm not an accessory.
I took my 9" barreled AR 22LR/SS to the range today. I did not need the suppressor. The new 15-22 and BD 50rd mags are broken in now so I was getting really great reliability with the SS.
I tried various different ammo but the RN HV ammo was as reliable as the ammo. CCI MM 40gr RN was the best. Win M22, Fed Auto Match, Fed Bulk and almost every standard velocity was not great. I shot nearly 800 rounds of CCI Mini mags this morning. The CCI Stingers were super fun.
The SS has officially become the best $100 I've ever spent on a firearm accessory. LOVE it!
I may need to put together another AR180 drum adapter.
I tried various different ammo but the RN HV ammo was as reliable as the ammo. CCI MM 40gr RN was the best. Win M22, Fed Auto Match, Fed Bulk and almost every standard velocity was not great. I shot nearly 800 rounds of CCI Mini mags this morning. The CCI Stingers were super fun.
The SS has officially become the best $100 I've ever spent on a firearm accessory. LOVE it!
I may need to put together another AR180 drum adapter.
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ScottinTexas
UZI Talk Life Member
I have found any flavor of 2010 through current production Winchester .22 and all Federal Automatch are an order of magnitude less reliable than any other 36 or 40 gr ammo I have or have tried, including Remington Golden Turds.
I have not tried Aguila because I know good Mexican food when I see it and Aguila is to ammo what Taco Bell is to food in general, let alone Mexican food.
I get a lot of solid strikes that just fail to ignite with Winchester and Fed Automatch. It’s awful.
First lesson I had to learn with any .22 full auto.
I have not tried Aguila because I know good Mexican food when I see it and Aguila is to ammo what Taco Bell is to food in general, let alone Mexican food.
I get a lot of solid strikes that just fail to ignite with Winchester and Fed Automatch. It’s awful.
First lesson I had to learn with any .22 full auto.
Couldn't agree more!
My own experience...I bought a bunch (>10) of SS's last summer and replaced 4 of 5 RDIAS' and 2 of 5 HK Sears with SS's.
In AR15
-standard 5.56 (shorty)
-9mm
-.22 (both BoreBuddy & GMR trip setups)
-Shrike / MCR beltfed upper
HK (9mm guns)
-SP5k-PDW
-SP5
The majority of these were "install and go." I had to tinker a little with the 9mm & .22 AR setups to get to satisfactory function. The "MP5k" worked from the get-go...I still have work to do on the full-size model.
I live in a "ban-free" state and hope it remains that way...
ScottinTexas
UZI Talk Life Member
My 1st batch (I think it was 10) came from Grey Market Research. Shortly thereafter, I bought 4 more from Deez Nutz Tactical...IIRC, because GMR was OOS when I went to pick up more.
Probably have a slight preference for the GMR as those were the 1st I tried and had easy success with. I put DNT in each of my son's AR15s and they work fine as well.
I went with SkoPrints for the HK 9mm lowers and trips. At that time there were only (2) HK lower options and these SkoPrints printed lowers were at a price point I was comfortable with for experimentation. The "k" works perfectly, I'm still working with the full size.
No noticeable wear or breakage. I run CCI mini-mags in my .22 setup.
ScottinTexas
UZI Talk Life Member
I need some clarification here on the configuration of the lower receiver.
Specifically, regarding this:
Anderson pistol lower (make sure the lower has a low shelf, where the pocket behind the selector shaft is lower than the selector shaft)
None of my Spike's lowers have this characteristic. None of the 30 or so lowers my local shop had in stock have this characteristic.
In the pic below, the Spike's lower (top)measures out .529" from the top of the lower (where it mates with the upper) to the 'shelf' that behind the safety shaft and under the rear takedown pin.
The second receiver (bottom) is a Colt M614, factory FA. it has the normal milled out area for the factory trip. I post it here to confirm this is the area roughly that "needs to be lower than the selector shaft".
Since none of the new stripped lowers are going to be milled like the M614, and every one I have or saw today looks the the one on the top of the photo below, will none of the work?
Or am I misinterpreting the description of "make sure the lower has a low shelf, where the pocket behind the selector shaft is lower than the selector shaft"?
Can someone with a working SS lower take out their calipers and measure the distance from their shelf to the top of their lower receiver?
Specifically, regarding this:
Anderson pistol lower (make sure the lower has a low shelf, where the pocket behind the selector shaft is lower than the selector shaft)
None of my Spike's lowers have this characteristic. None of the 30 or so lowers my local shop had in stock have this characteristic.
In the pic below, the Spike's lower (top)measures out .529" from the top of the lower (where it mates with the upper) to the 'shelf' that behind the safety shaft and under the rear takedown pin.
The second receiver (bottom) is a Colt M614, factory FA. it has the normal milled out area for the factory trip. I post it here to confirm this is the area roughly that "needs to be lower than the selector shaft".
Since none of the new stripped lowers are going to be milled like the M614, and every one I have or saw today looks the the one on the top of the photo below, will none of the work?
Or am I misinterpreting the description of "make sure the lower has a low shelf, where the pocket behind the selector shaft is lower than the selector shaft"?
Can someone with a working SS lower take out their calipers and measure the distance from their shelf to the top of their lower receiver?
On your top picture there is a block of aluminum "shelf" behind the selector cam inside the lower. The M16 is missing most of that material. I can't tell by the picture but is that shelf even with the top of the cam or slightly lower than the cam?
If the shelf is even or slightly lower than the cam them it might need to have the part of the shelf just behind the cam removed with a rotary tool. I needed to do that with my DD SBR.
If the shelf is even or slightly lower than the cam them it might need to have the part of the shelf just behind the cam removed with a rotary tool. I needed to do that with my DD SBR.
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YOUTUBE has a lot videos on installation. Too bad GMR has removed there help pages. I think it's because other makers were directing people there. There is also a reddit "r/supersafety" thread with lots of help.
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ScottinTexas
UZI Talk Life Member
On your top picture there is a block of aluminum "shelf" behind the selector cam inside the lower. The M16 is missing most of that material. I can't tell by the picture but is that shelf even with the top of the cam or slightly lower than the cam?
If the shelf is even or slightly lower than the cam them it might need to have the part of the shelf just behind the cam removed with a rotary tool. I needed to do that with my DD SBR.
Well this is interesting.
I took a Spike's lower and micrometered the the distance from top of lower to shelf: .637" and top of lower to top of selector shaft: .534". So the shelf on the Spikes is 0.097" lower than the top of the selector shaft.
I also took a Rock River lower and micrometered the the distance from top of lower to shelf: .532" and top of lower to top of selector shaft: .557". So the shelf on the RRA is 0.025" HIGHER than the top of the selector shaft.
Clearly the RRA won't work but maybe the Spike's will?
I'll check Youtube.
AR15.com has a list of low shelf lowers.
PSA, Aero and Anderson worked for me. even though DD was low shelf, it needed a bit of trimming in the corners behind the cam.
Just be sure to hand function check before life fire.
PSA, Aero and Anderson worked for me. even though DD was low shelf, it needed a bit of trimming in the corners behind the cam.
Just be sure to hand function check before life fire.
ScottinTexas
UZI Talk Life Member
You should be fine with the Spikes lowers, most (if not all?) of the lowers that Spikes made are low shelf.
I use Spikes ST15 for both RDIAS' and SS and Spikes 9mm ST9 lower for the same (RDIAS & SS).
I just mic'd top of lower to shelf and top of lower to top of selector for both Spikes lower types
ST15 - top of lower to shelf 0.650" & top of lower to top of selector 0.530
ST9 - top of lower to shelf 0.638 & top of lower to top of selector 0.530
HTH
LGustin
FFL/C&R, UZI Talk Supporter,
I have been following this thread and reading up on different setups and plan to use one of my SS in a dedicated 22lr. I’m not well versed in AR’s so my plan right now is to buy a complete upper and bolt set up for the SS with the adjustable weight from Bore Buddy. They have a few options to add the pressure plug and make the bolt quiet and hand tune everything before shipping. I know there are cheaper ways to go but all things considered this will be less than $1.5k total for a super safe 22lr and hopefully will have the best chance to work out of the box with minimal tinkering. With all that said, is there a better option that I may have overlooked? Father’s Day and July 4 are coming up and probably will see a sale of some sort to save a few $$ to go towards some 22lr ammo. Thanks for any advice or suggestions.
I had a look,in my 9mm colt carbine last week and knew I was going to have to run,it through my mill to install a SS.
Same with my 6920's if I do anything with them probably not though.
I plan on sticking the selektor SS in my DPMS SBR.
and the SS in my Colt carbine ordered the KAK bolt weight last week.
Funny I don't see Bushmaster or Oly on that list.
Gone are the days of only buying the ABCD's of AR15 rifles.
Thanks for the list.
Same with my 6920's if I do anything with them probably not though.
I plan on sticking the selektor SS in my DPMS SBR.
and the SS in my Colt carbine ordered the KAK bolt weight last week.
Funny I don't see Bushmaster or Oly on that list.
Gone are the days of only buying the ABCD's of AR15 rifles.
Thanks for the list.
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