Tactical stock ideas for Reising 50?

[smithwr3]

Anyone ever tried to adapt or fit a tactical-style polymer stock to a Reising? I like the old wood stock on my 1957-vintage Reising, but it would be neat to see what some industrious folks could come up with.

 

[Garrett]

I'd kicked around the idea of making one out of fiberglass, but never got any farther that that. I don't know if the market is big enough to bother with making molds for a poly / plastic stock. It might be possible to mill one out of a block of some kind of composite.

I'm half thinking the humidity gets to mine. Some days it runs great, and others not so much. Same ammo, same mags, etc. but the rainy / humid days seem to be the ones where it doesn't do so well. I should probably look for rubs in the stock and relieve those areas.

I almost hate the idea of a "tactical" stock on a Reising, but I won't say I wouldn't buy one if it was well made.

 

[smithwr3]

I was just thinking of something different to modernize the Reising a bit... It will be interesting to see if someone has some good ideas...and skills.

 

[smithwr3]

If things pan out, I will finally go to Knob Creek and ask Mr. Cristie if he would consider adapting his 10/22 polymer stocks.

 

[piratesover40]

I'd kicked around the idea of making one out of fiberglass, but never got any farther that that. I don't know if the market is big enough to bother with making molds for a poly / plastic stock. It might be possible to mill one out of a block of some kind of composite.

I'm half thinking the humidity gets to mine. Some days it runs great, and others not so much. Same ammo, same mags, etc. but the rainy / humid days seem to be the ones where it doesn't do so well. I should probably look for rubs in the stock and relieve those areas.

I almost hate the idea of a "tactical" stock on a Reising, but I won't say I wouldn't buy one if it was well made.

Now you know why the Marines had a love/hate relationship with it.

 

[gunguy45]

Now you know why the Marines had a love/hate relationship with it.

Many reasons other than that, from my understanding.
The fact that they stripped parts from many guns, cleaned them, and put them back on random guns didn't help, and there are many horror stories about them "rusting up" over night. That one I never understood, as the mititary guns were parkerized just like every other weapon.

Oh yes, don't forget the "jungle Junk" in the bolt recess in the reciever.

IMHO, bottom line, great rear area weapon, the cops used them for decades, but not for front line use.

By the way, I love mine.

 

[jbird]

I found this old thread & I thought you might want to see this stock. I made this several years ago. Fibergalss & wood.

 

[texasvwnut]

That's pretty cool!

 

[Garrett]

I found this old thread & I thought you might want to see this stock. I made this several years ago. Fibergalss & wood.

http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/300/reisingmine01.jpg

Oooo. I like that. Is it a wood stock up front with fiberglass for the back half? How about a few details.

And for that matter, I see you have a thread protector where your compensator used to be. Do you shoot the gun suppressed? If so, what can and how well does it work? Any idea of what thread pitch is on the barrel threads?

 

[rsideout]

How do you get to the cocking handle? I don't see an opening in the underside of the front part of the stock.

 

[willbdavis]

Here is an example of a customized Reising up here in New England:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5u7t1KWTiY

http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/54436-Custom-Reising-Submachine-Gun-Project?highlight=reising

 

[texasvwnut]

The last link does not work.

 

[jbird]

This stock started as an original Reising stock. I cut the stock part off & removed the grip portion. The stock part was reshaped similer to an FAL stock. I then reattached the stock portion a little higher to the remainder of the original stock. The pistol grip, trigger area & the junction of the stock is fiberglass. A lot of the remainder of the stock has fiberglass layers & patches.

The cocking slot was moved the left side of the forearm so that I could cock the gun with my left hand.

I don't use a suppressor. I just removed the comp because I could not really see that it worked. It did nothing but add length to the gun.

A picture of the cocking slot.

 

[rsideout]

Very creative! You do nice work.

 

[texasvwnut]

Very ingenious!

 

[jbird]

Thanks for the compliment. I have had this for years, but rarely has anyone noticed the stock. Most have never heard of a Reising & have no idea how they are "supposed" to look. Thanks again.

 

[willbdavis]

Very nice! I like the improved location of the cocking slot. I wish I was that handing with fiberglass.

 

[Patrick Floyd]

damn i like that! more pics please

 

[willbdavis]

It is worth noting that the above Reising with the fiberglass stock is no longer considered a C&R item. This has legal implications, for example when crossing state lines or transferring ownership on a form 4.

From the BATF Firearms Curios or Relics List:

"It is also the opinion of FTB, however, that a minor change such as the addition of scope mounts, non-original sights, or sling swivels would not remove a firearm from its original condition. Moreover, we have determined that replacing particular firearms parts with new parts that are made to the original design would also be acceptable—for example, replacing a cracked M1 Grand stock with a new wooden stock of the same design, but replacing the original firearm stock with a plastic stock would change its classification as a C&R item."

 

[Garrett]

It is worth noting that the above Reising with the fiberglass stock is no longer considered a C&R item...
"It is also the opinion of FTB... we have determined that ... replacing the original firearm stock with a plastic stock would change its classification as a C&R item."

That will stand right up until someone challenges them on it.

From 27 CFR 478.11 :
Curios or relics. Firearms which are of special interest to collectors by reason of some quality other than is associated with firearms intended for sporting use or as offensive or defensive weapons. To be recognized as curios or relics, firearms must fall within one of the following categories: (a) Firearms which were manufactured at least 50 years prior to the current date, but not including replicas thereof; (b) Firearms which are certified by the curator of a municipal, State, or Federal museum which exhibits firearms to be curios or relics of museum interest; and (c) Any other firearms which derive a substantial part of their monetary value from the fact that they are novel, rare, bizarre, or because of their association with some historical figure, period, or event. Proof of qualification of a particular firearm under this category may be established by evidence of present value and evidence that like firearms are not available except as collector's items, or that the value of like firearms available in ordinary commercial channels is substantially less.

I don't care if you have a stock made of wood, fiberglass, plastic, or Jello, or no stock at all, the "receiver" is the firearm and everything else is just parts. The "firearm" is still 50+ years old, so it still meets the definition as laid out in the law.

I understand that ATF's FTB interprets the law, but they are interpreting under a very narrow set of circumstances there. If anyone were to challenge them on their interpretation, it would be overthrown.

Of course, the cost of a legal challenge would not be insubstantial. And they are probably counting on that keeping us mere peasants in line. :finger