The Ban Talks: Going or Blowing Over

[daytonajim00]

My uncle was helping me fix my car last night. He has one of those laptop looking touch screen data readers. He always had the coolest toys and that included guns. My interest in guns may have come from shooting his Riot 12 guage in the back yard for New Years when I was 9 or the many gun loaded 90's action movies he used to have us watching growing up. Ironically, just like old times, Predator was on last night. I heard him from the other room rooting at the TV like he does "Arnold...Hell yeaa" and "General Electric Mini Gun.......yeaaaa". I stepped in the room and watched for a minute. I asked, "what do u think about the gun control talks." He said, "It will blow over, $&#% happens all the time." I think this time might be different though. What do you guys think. Are they serious or strutting in vain. Could it stick and what might it include. I was too young to care about the politics of the past but I'm interested to know what some of yalls take is on the current hot topic. Is it already dying down. I just saw AR pmags for $79 on cheaper than dirt today. Last week they were $50.

 

[Hughjimbissel]

We need to keep the pressure on the NRA Democrats. A lot of them don't want to be anywhere near this issue. With all the other stuff that's going on it might get shuffled off to a back burner but you need to let your Congressweasels know how you feel. If they suspect it will be a loser for them at the polls, they will not want to even vote on it.
Remember, they will try to stick something in another bill if they can't get it passed in a conventional fashion. The key is to let them know this is an important issue to you and you won't accept any "compromises".

 

[daytonajim00]

Well put. I was thinking about the possibility of future efforts being pushed under the radar as well. As far as the polls, I guess the trick of many politics is to get public opinion shifted in a certain direction. Then one alligns thier promises and efforts in that direction and bingo.

 

[ekim]

Just that fact that talk about a purposed gun ban has already driven some guns, ammo and magazines out of the reach of a lot of people, is in effect a gun ban. Brought on by the government but put into effect by greedy gun dealers! Then throw in the government buying millions of rounds of ammo, and ordering guns by the thousands and watch prices soar again. How can the people afford to buy guns etc for themselves and the government at the same time then putting gun regulations on the people and the manufacturers and what can the people do?

 

[ddmau]

Government works slowly, but relentlessly....don't get complacent. At most times, it takes a year or more for legislation to work it's way through Congress...the Progressives are trying to Fast-Track this as much as they can while they can still dance on the graves of dead children (Sandy Hook), but there are a lot of Politicians who are concerned about re-election....they KNOW that this is not going down well with a majority of their constituents, no matter how much the Media tries to falsely spin the numbers.

Keep the pressure on - you can bet that there are a lot of maneuvers going on behind the scenes (remember "Under the Radar")to ram something through like they did with Obamacare...

 

[Reloader21]

It is not "blowing over', that idiot in Sandy Hook created the perfect storm for gun control measures, because their is public support, that their has not been in the past. I believe their will be restrictions coming, I think it will be quite dilluted from what is being proposed. Thank God for the NRA, or we would be like the folks down under no semi auto anything.

 

[GRAYSTATION]

My two cents: I just watched the latest Home Land Security video, what to do if a mass shooter attacks in the work place. The video shows people hiding under a desk or suggests attacking a shooter with a pair of scissors. The HLS video assumes that we are all sheep, waiting to be slaughtered by some deranged son of a bitch.

Considering all the experience the feds have with Postal employees, suggesting that people hide and wait for help, their position is irresponsible. People need to assume responsibility for the own safety. Law Enforcement is almost always "reactive" (waiting for something to happen) and cannot be everywhere to prevent such incidents from taking place. That translates in to you being a victem. That's unacceptable.

There is still little attention to the real issue, the failure of Mental Health System to treat these deranged people to reduce the number of them going over the edge. That's what I've told my elected representatives to address.

 

[StooperZero]

Can't fault PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY in a Socialist World.






and as for any BAN..



just can't see myself complying, God is my master not a rich infidel in suit and tie.

 

[johnnywitt]

The Senate is going to "hear" Senator Feinsteins Bill in early March, or even end of Feb., so this thing could move fast.
The antis have wisened up now. The "Assault Weapon Ban" IMO won't pass and "Uncle Joe" isn't even really pushing that hard anymore for that.
They are going to neuter military style semis by restricting mag capacity because THAT isn't protected by the Constitution.
I believe they will go after ammo as well. They will try to limit quantities and types of ammo as well as ban internet sale of ammo. It will go back to the days when they had to keep records of all handgun ammo sales.
You will probably need an "Arsenal License" to possess a couple bricks of ammo for target shooting with your .22LR, after all, who NEEDS a 1000rds of ammo anyway, right? What, are you going to go and shoot up a gun free zone or something.
As unbelievable as this is, I think the avg. urban. or suburban sheeple out there will welcome this. After all, its all for the little childrens' safety and all.
Remember, they have already completely GUTTED the 10th Amendment, so why not finish off whats left of the 2nd Amendment too.

 

[gbfirearmsales]

It will go back to the days when they had to keep records of all handgun ammo sales.

I am curious about that statement. When was it ever law that retailers had to keep records of handgun ammo sales?

 

[Vegas SMG]

I am curious about that statement. When was it ever law that retailers had to keep records of handgun ammo sales?

The Gun Control Act of 1968 required retailers to record all ammunition sales, it banned interstate ammo and gun sales, and forced gun and ammo dealers to be licensed. The Firearms Owners Protection Act of 1986 repealed those laws, but we lost any new transferable machine guns made after it became law in May, 19,1986.
hhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_Control_Act_of_1968

Most stores kept a log but I saw spiral note books used. Some retailers required you to present a drivers license while others allowed you to enter your own information. It was a huge pain for anyone selling ammo and of course it prevented no crime.

 

[rescue161]

So are they planning on doing away with one of the good parts of FOPA? It would be funny if they just repealed FOPA altogether. Sure it would suck about the ammo, but if the Hughes Amendment went bye-bye, I'd be happy.

 

[MrM4]

If I have to keep a record as a dealer of my ammo sales the cost of that ammo is going up. Repeal would just add more headache and more overhead on a low profit item like ammo.

 

[johnnywitt]

Face to face (no internet) ammo sales with requisite record keeping = higher cost and even more availability issues.