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Hell, he advertised a DIAS that had a part of a lightning link brazed to the bottom of it one time on Sturm. That sure got everyone's panties in a wad when that ad got posted. He didn't even have it in his possession yet. It was advertised as "incoming".
 

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Someone did the buy it now for $250. The person who bought it has an NR on gunbroker. It’s still baffles me with a good company like Midwest tactical would sell something like that something just doesn’t add up.
Frank isn't very knowledgeable and he doesn't care. He's a shill who wants to monopolize the MG community. He has been deleterious to the community since the get go.
 

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There are several registered receivers with the blocking bar intact. Are the bolts married to the gun in that case? Can you not buy a spare bolt?
 

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There are several registered receivers with the blocking bar intact. Are the bolts married to the gun in that case? Can you not buy a spare bolt?
They are married & the bolts cannot be replaced & the blocking bar can’t be temoved
 

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There are several registered receivers with the blocking bar intact. Are the bolts married to the gun in that case? Can you not buy a spare bolt?

No spares or replacements. As mattnh already posted, those receivers and bolts are permanently married and the blocking bar can't be removed. If you break the receiver or bolt, those can only be repaired, not replaced.

Lack of (caliber) versatility and permanent marriage of bolt / receiver is why a slotted-bolt RR Uzi's tend to be the least desirable of the transferable configurations. There are also those who will say that being an "unaltered registered receiver with unregistered conversion device" is also a detractor.
 

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Frank isn't very knowledgeable and he doesn't care. He's a shill who wants to monopolize the MG community. He has been deleterious to the community since the get go.
He’s not the only one that monopolizes and prays on “Future Smg owners”!! There’s another company that does shady crap as well on Gunbroker. Tons of shill bidders on his auctions that’s gets the FRENZY going. Next thing you know you bought it for more that 20-40% more than average same gun sales. You guys that know, know that company im
Referring to. YMMV.
 

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They are married & the bolts cannot be replaced & the blocking bar can’t be removed

An UZI slotted bolt is a conversion device.
If the slotted UZI bolt doesn’t have a SN on it or it has the SN of the semi uzi on it they are married.
You can't legally manufacture a replacement transferable slotted bolt marked or unmarked as it is a standalone conversion device.
 

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When the Uzi Carbine first came out, it wasn't long before you could buy slotted open bolts advertised in Shotgun News. They sold quite a few, and for quite some time before ATF stopped them. There were no criminal charges at the time. At first it was simply a matter of modifying the weapon into a non approved configuration. Then they cracked down ruling them "conversion parts" and wanted them picked up. The KG-9, Demro, Ingram etc were all approved as open bolt, but the Uzi was specifically designed to placate ATF. Obviously that turned out to be a winning strategy in the long run.
I would scan the want ads every Sunday morning and remember a guy advertising an Uzi and he had "both bolts" with the package. I actually called him to see if he was willing to negotiate? As far as the open bolt, he had no nefarious intentions; it was just the ability to have the option of something closer to the "real thing". 1979-82 was an interesting time to be into those kinds of guns. It also sucked to be a poor college student.
 

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No spares or replacements. As mattnh already posted, those receivers and bolts are permanently married and the blocking bar can't be removed. If you break the receiver or bolt, those can only be repaired, not replaced.

Lack of (caliber) versatility and permanent marriage of bolt / receiver is why a slotted-bolt RR Uzi's tend to be the least desirable of the transferable configurations. There are also those who will say that being an "unaltered registered receiver with unregistered conversion device" is also a detractor.
I'd opine that registered sear Uzis (discussed in the Library) also fall into the same [low] value range.
MHO, YMMV, etc.
 

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I'd opine that registered sear Uzis (discussed in the Library) also fall into the same [low] value range.
MHO, YMMV, etc.
I wrote the conversion article. IMHO, I would rate the sear the most valuable only for the Mini since the Mini semi's were not imported till '87. Then ATF caught up with Fleming in '88 and made him permanently marry them to receivers then. So a registered sear Mini WAS the closest you could get to a factory IMI Mini that isn't a re-welded receiver like the Vector Group Mini's.
I have my sear gun Mini in 22LR, 9mm open and closed bolt as well as 40SW.

I say WAS above since ATF recently grandfathered the Premays that were imported by police departments and I know some Mini's out there that fit that criteria. So that is the new gold standard for a transferable Mini.
 

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I wrote the conversion article. IMHO, I would rate the sear the most valuable only for the Mini since the Mini semi's were not imported till '87. Then ATF caught up with Fleming in '88 and made him permanently marry them to receivers then. So a registered sear Mini WAS the closest you could get to a factory IMI Mini that isn't a re-welded receiver like the Vector Group Mini's.
I have my sear gun Mini in 22LR, 9mm open and closed bolt as well as 40SW.

I say WAS above since ATF recently grandfathered the Premays that were imported by police departments and I know some Mini's out there that fit that criteria. So that is the new gold standard for a transferable Mini.
WRT registered sear Uzis; as Rick Harrison of "Pawn Stars" says, "Rare doesn't always mean valuable."
MHO, YMMV, etc.
 

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I'd opine that registered sear Uzis (discussed in the Library) also fall into the same [low] value range.
Opinions are like other body parts. Everyone has one. You are certainly entitled to yours. Reality, and the market, are at odds with it. The Mini Uzi sear guns have truly been the de facto gold standard. They are in fact the closest thing to an IMI Mini available on the transferable market. Recent sold prices bear that out. Now, any future reclassified guns may def change that.
 

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Is there a list somewhere or a discussion that explains all the different types of uzi conversions?

I thought that a slotted bolt was in itself a machine gun

Or it could be a married part of a registered machine gun

Is there any circumstance where a loose slotted bolt could be legally directly sold to another guy without involving atf in some way?
 
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Is there a list somewhere or a discussion that explains all the different types of uzi conversions?

I thought that a slotted bolt was in itself a machine gun

correct

Or it could be a married part of a registered machine gun

correct

Is there any circumstance where a loose slotted bolt could be legally directly sold to another guy without involving atf in some way?

none that are legal in US
 

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