TX22 FRTs

[strobro32]

This company is putting out some neat FRT toys. https://www.freedomfingertriggers.com/

Where is Jake? He had a group buy on these things.

Taurus TX-22

@freedomfingertriggers on Instagram: "Keep your eyes peeled, dropping later this month!🫡"

249 likes, 42 comments - freedomfingertriggers on August 2, 2025: "Keep your eyes peeled, dropping later this month!🫡".

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Neat adapter for the 110 GSG drum. No video yet. They say it kinda works but the offer the 3D print files for the adapter and dummy rounds for free.

Freedom Finger Triggers

www.freedomfingertriggers.com

Soon, a select fire M&P9. It works on the opposite side of the sear than a switch. I think it may be a hard sells to LE to make them believe it's not a switch. Interesting video at bottom of the page.

Help Make The M&P Select-Fire Freedom Finger FRT Happen! | Freedom Finger Triggers

Donors will be first in line to purchase and receive this product once available!Freedom Finger Triggers (FFT) plans to bring the best and ONLY select-fire pistol FRT to market! Will work in the M&P 1.0 & 2.0 (9mm/40cal/10mm/45cal) (Full/Compact/Subcompact/Metal). Will not work in the Shield...

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How Does It Force Reset?​

Video at bottom of page.

Freedom Finger FRT - M&P® 2.0 (Non-Select) (Stainless Steel) | Freedom Finger Triggers

Stainless steel drop in forced reset trigger (FRT) for the Smith & Wesson® M&P® 2.0. Replaces the factory backplate for easy installation/removal. If the forced reset fails, the pistol remains able to be fired in semi-auto. This product renders the striker safety plunger non-functional, use at...

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[Caverpete]

Yeah, looking at the vid, they are definitely splitting hairs as to whether or not their device is a switch. With that spikey looking part on the replacement back plate it certainly looks like a switch…. They will probably get shutdown for it. The only bright side is that the flood gates are pretty much open for FRT’s. Gonna be hard to put that cat back in the bag.

 

[strobro32]

CA said that 100K stun guns justified of the "common use" rule. There have been multiple millions of FRTs and SS made.

 

[Jmacken37]

Pretty fast ROF! Fun!
Matt, Is that adaptor for the 10/22 GSG drums or the MP5 flavor? I couldn't figure out looking at their website. Perhaps the drums are the same, just with different towers.

 

[strobro32]

The adapter is to connect any of the GSG drums to the Taurus TX mags. The GSG adapter is removed and the FFT adapter is added.

I did the same when I tried to mod the M-11/22 mags to the GSG drum. Mine was like %50 reliable.

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

The very early tx22 frt reports are that it drops in and works. I’m really eager to try this out. My gun and FRT should be in hand next week.

His M&P 9mm FRT also seems to be very easy to make work compared to what I’m seeing for other people’s Glock FRTs

Now we just need a shotgun FRT. After that my grail gun list is complete and I won’t need to buy another gun for the rest of my life ?

 

[ericthered]

The JTS m12ar can be modified to work with a SS. It needs a extended trip lever. Seems to work sometimes, and not for others.

 

[root]

I'm thinking of trying a AK frt in my S12 sbs.
Kind of affraid to mess with it though as it is 100% reliable as is with even the low brass wallyworld stuff.

Might need to buy a Tarus 22 in the near future it looks like fun with the frt.

 

[strobro32]

Now we just need a shotgun FRT. After that my grail gun list is complete and I won’t need to buy another gun for the rest of my life ?

Gen-12 SS Tutorial.docx

Gen-12 SS Tutorial Alrighty here is the tutorial that everyone has been asking me for.... this video and post will be explaining the process of getting a super safety to work in a Genesis Arms Gen-12 shotgun. The video will have all the information laid out as concisely as I could, excuse the a...

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Watch Super Safe Gen-12 | Streamable

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[gorillastomp]

I thought that FRTs where not supposed to be installed in handguns that fed through the grip did I miss something?

 

[Alaska_Shooter]

RB agreed to not make “through the grip” FRT’s. Anyone else can make them.

If the G-12 wasn’t crazy expensive, I’d have one.

(From what I read) The G-12 people are pissed that there’s a company converting their guns for Lighting Links and SS’s. They keep modifying parts to try to stop the conversions

I saw some early JTS posts in beta but then it seems to have fizzled

 

[Slowmo]

I thought that FRTs where not supposed to be installed in handguns that fed through the grip did I miss something?

I have never heard that and am curious where that rule come from? Was that from the RB settlement or one of the various FRT court cases?

 

[strobro32]

Lawrence D. of RB said they would not pursue handgun FRTs as part of their settlement but they would continue AR pistol FRTs.

The question is are FRTS legal, and right now they are.

 

[ericthered]

Nothing illegal bout frt's for mag through grip guns (we NEED Uzi frt). I think it was in James Reeves interview of demonicO that he said they would file lawsuits against anyone making a frt for mag grip firearms. Which is outside of the scope of his patent. He also had a stupid opinion that because of the impractability of them that we shouldnt have them. Not sure if he mis spoke in regards to rarebreed going after them, as I really dont see how they legally could.

 

[StenAtopia]

Sucks to live in “Flerida”!!!

 

[A&S Conversions]

Nothing illegal bout frt's for mag through grip guns (we NEED Uzi frt). I think it was in James Reeves interview of demonicO that he said they would file lawsuits against anyone making a frt for mag grip firearms. Which is outside of the scope of his patent. He also had a stupid opinion that because of the impractability of them that we shouldnt have them. Not sure if he mis spoke in regards to rarebreed going after them, as I really dont see how they legally could.

It is my understanding that if you have a patent on a mechanism, you have a patent on how that mechanism functions. If another business entity uses that patented mechanism in another application, the owner of that patent has the right to charge a royalty for use of that mechanism to the other business entity. Or the patent owner/user can deny another business entity from using the patented mechanism in a different application, if they don’t want that business entity to use their patented mechanism. A patent doesn’t stop an individual from using the patented mechanism for their own use, but that individual can’t use the patented mechanism to make a profit.

It is my understanding that Rare Breed is paying the owner of the patent of the FRT to use that patent. I don’t know specifically the agreement between RB and the owner of the patent, but it seems to me that how the agreement is written, it is up to RB to defend the patent. I don’t know that for a fact. But they were the one who defended the FRT against the ATF.

If I was paying to use a patent, and I spent thousands, tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands of my money to defend that patent from ATF overreach, if I got a settlement with ATF, I would imagine that it would take me a while to earn back all the money I spent fighting to use that patent in the marketplace. It is my understanding that there was certainly a very large sum spent to get that settlement with the ATF. It would certainly piss me off to have someone else start using the patent and settlement I am paying for, to make profit for themselves without giving me my due compensation.

According to Hoffman, the Super Safety uses a different mechanism than the Forced Reset Trigger mechanism. It seems that the way Hoffman described the Super Safety mechanism, I would think that the SS mechanism is different. So who is going to defend the SS? It won’t be cheap to go to court to argue that there is a difference with Rare Breed. Who is going to pay that bill to settle that dispute? I don’t really know.

By the same token, if the FRT and the SS are different, what is to stop the ATF from calling the SS a machine gun? I don’t know, I am just asking? It would seem to be a more cost effective route to just pay a royalty to RB, so the Super Safety can come under the FRT agreement.

My limited experience with the judicial system isn’t about what is just. It seems much more about who has the most resources. I could be wrong but it seems to me that there are no “deep pockets” that would defend the Super Safety mechanism in court. If the Super Safety mechanism is different from the Forced Reset Trigger mechanism, even if the Super Safety were to win that battle with Rare Breed, the ATF could determine that the Super Safety mechanism is a machine gun. The ATF settlement is with Rare Breed. Is there other entities who want the fight that RB just got a settlement for to go to court for the Super Safety? Again , I don’t know. But it would suck to win the battle and lose the war. Right now, the market seems to be a “free for all”. But if the Super Safety is a different mechanism from the FRT and isn’t covered by the settlement with Rare Breed, who has the resources to fight that fight? YMMV.

Scott

 

[slimshady]

From what I understand there was actually a court decision, since the trigger has to be pulled for each shot it is not a machine gun. That was seen to be a rather blanket ruling, if the trigger goes forward no matter what mechanism is propelling it, it has to be pulled again to fire and that does not meet the definition of machine gun. The fact that there are five different mechanisms that potentially could be developed to all do the same thing, kick the trigger forward, doesn't open up any of them to being a machine gun just because they don't match the first method. It's The end result that matters.

 

[strobro32]

Let's not forget that the ATF confiscated FRT15 and SSes. After the DOJ RB settlement, the ATF was ordered by the DOJ to return both types to the owners. How would the ATF justify returning machine guns?

 

[ericthered]

@A&S Conversions Hoffman put out. Video recently in regards to the Rarebreed lawsuit

As far as RareBreed alleging that their patent gives them carte blanche to sue everybody because their patent allegedly covers everything is ridiculous. To my understanding, a patent cannot cover a concept, it can only cover the execution.
As was mentioned before, with a gentle soul like DemonicO at the helm of rarebreed, they will not be able to win in the long run. They will litigate themselves to death. They could have positioned themselves as Heros or Martyrs and had people pity buy their $600 triggers. But they chose otherwise. To the best of my knowledge the first contact RareBreed is having with companies is to issue a C&D. I dont think they are interested in negotiations.
As far as RBs civil suits against the plethora. I dont think that has any bearing on the ATF and their criminal suits. Legally speaking. To my understanding leastways.
It seems RB is coming into things with a lot of money to burn. Not sure where it comes from. But playing whack a mole will hit that hard. Which like you mentioned, it isn't about justice, it is about who has money. Which RB may drive some out of business without even winning or losing. Which for RB is the best outcome besides winning.

 

[strobro32]

RB says they sold 500.000 units for anywhere between $350-$499.00