what do you think about this fnc?

[mraxiomatic]

That 614 looks pretty nice

Ill suspect it will go eventually at close to its BIN price, but it provides so many options and calibers, you could spend years playing with it. By the way, one of the bidders, I believe is an alter ego of a well financed midwestern dealer, but he will only buy it dirt cheap to resale at 20k, so not a problem.

 

[okpud]

I have not heard of an S&H conversion where the sear is wearing- others I have and mine is wearing a bit- I was told after 8-10 thousand rounds the timing may be off from the sear wearing and at that point it can be welded up- in one year I have only shot a few hundred rounds so it will be a while. I thought about trying to harden my sear, but I was afraid if I did it incorrectly it would become brittle. I am not worried about it as adding more material to it and then reshaping it is no big deal.

I have worked on some FNCs with bad sear wear, but none were S&H conversions. Every loose FNC sear I have handled was not heat treated and need to be shaped during the conversion. After shaping, you need to heat treat them. Some guys (not S&H) didn't realize this when they first started doing conversions. When we did my own conversion years ago, I heat treated the sear after shaping it for a factory full-auto hammer and it has no noticeable wear after many rounds. They are made from 4130 steel, so hardening and oil quenching should be done accordingly.

 

[mad scientist]

Ill suspect it will go eventually at close to its BIN price, but it provides so many options and calibers, you could spend years playing with it. By the way, one of the bidders, I believe is an alter ego of a well financed midwestern dealer, but he will only buy it dirt cheap to resale at 20k, so not a problem.

A Midwestern dealer with the initials F.G.?

 

[timkel]

Personally, I don't see any value in a 3 round burst. I certainly wouldn't pay more $$ for it.

 

[Wetworks]

To me it's just another upgrade to the platform. So I want it!
I don't use mine much but it does get used.

 

[Battering ram NIB]

Personally, I don't see any value in a 3 round burst. I certainly wouldn't pay more $$ for it.

they seem to sell for more $$ with it

 

[BBQCYCLEWERKES]

I have a paratrooper model FNC I bought as new never used 7 years ago. Mint. 1 mag, manual and I think sling. I will sell for $13,500 plus shipping and transfer. S&H conversion with 3 round burst kit. PM me if interested. Known on the Galil part of this forum and I think they will verify my honesty on gun descriptions when I sold off some of my collectables.

 

[mad scientist]

Personally, I don't see any value in a 3 round burst. I certainly wouldn't pay more $$ for it.

I don't either, but for my conversion, it was included and would not have changed the price if I didn't want it, so why not.

 

[Quake Guy]

FYI for the OP, since this sounds like it may be his first MG purchase, seller reliability and trust in what is being offered is a major component of these deals. If you feel like you are dealing with someone above board and you can actually verify the gun in person, that is worth an easy 10% premium over the sketchy guy offering a bottom of the barrel price on the other side of the country.

 

[mad scientist]

Excellent point there Quake Guy.

 

[Battering ram NIB]

i just did my 2nd MG purchase last night (ac556)

my 1st gun (uzi) is a NIB GI...still in its original oil....and i have a written 2 day guarantee the gun is NIB or a return is given

the Ac556 deal is more complicated.....we've agreed to let the dealer he is transferring it to be the middle man and handle the $$.....i wont ship $$ until i get a invoice with some guarantees in it....

for $30k, yes id fly across the country......but for $11-13k i am willing to put trust in a class 3 dealer....i paid a premium for the uzi for NIB just to protect myself....with the AC556 i have pics and a good story.......and at the deal i got as long as the gun is close to the condition seen and described ill do just fine....

no FNC for me...not yet anyways.......and i do agree trust is worth 10% more....

i now have 2 MGs on their way and also a Suppressor

going to be a fun Summer 2016 for me!.....the Suppressor should be mine late Winter and i have a .45 to put it on

 

[JoshNC]

called tba suppressors.....answering machine gives out a # to call todd...but that numbers gets you Economy Muffler Service----he doesnt even have the correct phone # on his answering service

he has FHC's with new sears all tricked out for $13,999......not sure if the gun is NIB he starts from or if he is redoing beaters....he doesnt say the condition of the host gun..looks like he has then all refinished to give them a different, more aggressive look....i copied his page and sent it to the seller...showing a new gun/tricked out with new sear for what he is asking for his basic gun

That was the correct number....he also owns a muffler shop.

 

[Kramer]

Personally, I don't see any value in a 3 round burst. I certainly wouldn't pay more $$ for it.

Sorry that you have a limited vision on this issue. The 3 round burst is great for people that have never shot a MG including people that might want to shoot your MG. Letting them shoot on the 3rd will keep them from creating a safety issue by spraying rounds all over.

 

[timkel]

Sorry that you have a limited vision on this issue. The 3 round burst is great for people that have never shot a MG including people that might want to shoot your MG. Letting them shoot on the 3rd will keep them from creating a safety issue by spraying rounds all over.

Yea, that's when you switch semi auto. The 3 round burst feature just adds something else to malfunction in the trigger group. But if find value in a 3 round burst, enjoy.

 

[JoshNC]

Like it or not, the 3rb group adds value. And one day in the future when 3rb components are total unobtanium, the converted guns that have them will likely command an even more significant premium over FNCs that lack the 3rb group.

I personally don't find it useful when I shoot my FNC, however it is a great feature when introducing novice shooters to fullauto.

 

[Kramer]

The 3 round burst feature just adds something else to malfunction in the trigger group. But if find value in a 3 round burst, enjoy.

It's not actually part of the trigger group. The 3 rd pack sits along the inside side of the receiver and a pawl is attached to the hammer.

And yea it works great in allowing the novice shooters, in my case teenagers, the chance to shoot a MG without worrying about an uncontrollable bullet hose.

 

[rhouston8]

I have a pair of FNCs. I never use the 3RB. And I take plenty of newbies shooting. I usually start them on a 9mm SMG first though...Uzi or whatnot. To each his own. I wouldnt pay a nickel more for 3RB. Ditto for Burst packs in HKs.

FNC prices. Yeah. I'd guess $11k is a reasonable deal. $14k is very highest end of the range (ie you are overpaying). The sub $10k FNCs sold out 1-1.5 yrs ago. Havent seen a sub $10k FNC listing since although a few may have squeaked by me.

NIB on an FNC? I doubt it. I bet they ALL have been shot by now, some more than others but still...NIB? nah....or else it'd be sticker price shock and you are right...you wouldnt want to shoot it yourself bc that 1st shot would cost you a couple grand. As far as condition I personally would rather buy an average condition gun at a good price than a used exc. condition gun at 30% premium. That's just me...but Im a shooter and not a safe queen true blue collector.

 

[Battering ram NIB]

i offered the guy who wanted $14k - $12k and he didnt even counter offer...then i showed him recent auctions for $10-11k......no reaction....and his ad already says $14k is price reduced......if he would have come back with $13000 i may have said yes.....

or i could go to ruben and pay $14,500...he has 3....all look used....scratched......someone must pay his prices

i prefer safe queens.....i dont want the gun 1/2 wore out when i buy it when i can get almost new for a few thousand more.....my uzi i just bought NIB was $13k....good condition sells for $10k....id rather pay $13 and have a nice scratch free gun for the rest of my life.....but im fussy when it comes to scratches/scuffs.....i dont like buying used anything

 

[jimdet]

3 round burst

The reason the military decided to go with the three round burst is to allow our soldiers to be a little more selective when firing in full auto. Anyone who has fired a full auto gun realizes that the longer the burst the less chance of acquiring your target. We are taught to use the three round burst as a way of controlling our firing. If you are purchasing your gun to simply to dump mags at melons obviously it's not warranted. If you purchased your gun as your SHTF Gun I would definitely want it. Incidently, to the fellow who asked about the FA FNC's that are for sale by TBA Suppressors. I have purchased two Full Autos from Todd. They were both 98 percenters and fire beautifully. I have also had Todd convert two other closet queens of mine and he did a great job on both.

 

[Wetworks]

Todd put my gun together also.
Only problem I have had is my sear pin trying to walk out.
Can't really fault him for that as it seems to be a common problem.
Otherwise he puts together a very nice product, I would happily buy from him again.