Who's got a trust?

[Patton250]

I like my trust. It also cool the the Feds don't have my finger prints.

 

[mtnvalley]

Of course you are correct. I in no way meant to claim a felon could LEGALLY possess a machinegun. Just stating there is no real way for ATF to determine that a trust might be owned BY a felon. I seriously investigated starting a trust in case NFA signatures became an issue in the future in my area. That concern dried up as a new young sheriff was sworn in and looks good to go for the foreseeable future. In any case, there are probably no more NFA items I am interested in collecting so again, the point is moot. And there again, with the elimination of the local LEO signature imminent, it would be more of a family planning thing than something used to acquire NFA items.

Fair point, and thanks for the correction (re:felon). In our case, the family planning aspect was semi-important...but the "hassle" factor was mixed.

I can get signoffs with no problem, but getting print cards done around here can evidently take quite a while. Every other LEA refers you to the county jailers, who tell you they'll do it on certain days between certain times...then you get there, and they say they're too busy, try again next week. I tried for a month (a few years ago) to get prints for a non-resident CCW permit from another state, and finally gave up. There are other places to get electronic prints, but AFAIK, jaliers are it for cards.

I dunno if anyone else has run into this impediment to NFA- I haven't seen anyone post about it- but I was going trust for estate and family possession reasons anyway.

 

[root]

In pa if you tell the state police you ned printed for a job they do it on the spot and hand you the cards free of charge.

Tell them it's NFA and it's a no go.
They are instructed not to sign or do anything else to "help" with NFA due to " liability"

So just tell them you need a fed check to work with kids and need to be printed and it's done.
Tell them you want to pay a 200 tax and be ready for a good flat out NO!

GO figure.

PS:
Here in Pa the cards are all the same so just get it done and tell them iy's for anything but a transfer. Also they date and sign the cards here so if you do that get them out to the BATFE in a timely fashion.

 

[Patton250]

In pa if you tell the state police you ned printed for a job they do it on the spot and hand you the cards free of charge.

Tell them it's NFA and it's a no go.
They are instructed not to sign or do anything else to "help" with NFA due to " liability"

So just tell them you need a fed check to work with kids and need to be printed and it's done.
Tell them you want to pay a 200 tax and be ready for a good flat out NO!

GO figure.

PS:
Here in Pa the cards are all the same so just get it done and tell them iy's for anything but a transfer. Also they date and sign the cards here so if you do that get them out to the BATFE in a timely fashion.

Man this post is the best advertisement for a trust I have ever read.

 

[Shattered]

And on the other hand, I get greeted at the Sheriffs office by name, get the prints done no charge and usually walk out with the signed papers in my hand all within 30 minutes or so. Then there's always a new "gun" guy who wisecracks that I have to leave the newly acquired gun there WITH a case of ammo for a month. I tell him if he can't shoot off a case of ammo in an afternoon, he's got no bidness being a cop.

 

[BeltFedEd]

In pa if you tell the state police you ned printed for a job they do it on the spot and hand you the cards free of charge.

Tell them it's NFA and it's a no go.
They are instructed not to sign or do anything else to "help" with NFA due to " liability"

So just tell them you need a fed check to work with kids and need to be printed and it's done.
Tell them you want to pay a 200 tax and be ready for a good flat out NO!

GO figure.

PS:
Here in Pa the cards are all the same so just get it done and tell them iy's for anything but a transfer. Also they date and sign the cards here so if you do that get them out to the BATFE in a timely fashion.

I have no problem getting prints at the State Police barracks here on the west coast of PA. I call them up to make sure that there will be someone there to take the prints.

It's a 50/50 shot if the person on that day knows what NFA is or not. Never had an issue either way. Most if not all were like, "Cool!"

As far as only one print card (at the State Police Barraks), they have at least two. There is the Blue (what we use for NFA), and then there is Black or Green (maybe both). How do I know? Because I always take my own cards, but use theirs if they have them. Only one time did I have to use my own because they were out.

So I don't know where you are getting your infomation on this obviouslly wrong blanket statement about all PA State Police.

 

[BuffDragon]

As the original poster of this thread, I appreciate all the feedback. I am still undecided which way to go. In my case, I have 3 daughters and a wife who could care less about any of my firearms, let alone ever want to own them. My cleo was great with my first item and signed while I was being fingerprinted at no charge. So, there is no problem doing a individual form 4, but I can't help but think sometime down the road when I have son-in-laws or grandsons, who might have gun interests, that a trust would be nice. I am leaning towards the trust.

this is almost my exact situation
first 5 stamps individual. show up at local sheriff's office with a bag of burgers and have lunch with my buddy. then he prints me and takes my picture. takes forms back to the man to sign. few days later I get a call to pick up signed forms. very easy. but the kids really changed my thinking.
I moved to a trust right before I got my machinegun. figured "they're making new suppressors every day, my kids can get whatever whenever maybe, but not a machinegun". all nexts stamps and pending ones are on the trust. since I've got it, I'm going to share it.
so far, I shoot more with my kids than my wife. be a shame to send my daughter(s) hunting when they're older without "their" cans when they go hunt with friends.

 

[Philip]

Wierd my finger prints cost nothing lol

think I paid $10 PER CARD at the local PD, and showed up with my own cards. Very nice and cute gal did them.