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    Quote Originally Posted by jericho941 View Post
    Wow, I did not see the appeals. Only his criminal one.

    So, how can they be open for business?
    Their website is current. I just looked.
    I think ATF allows you to continue selling to wind down your operations but I'm speculating.

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    His wife, Maura, who is co-principal for ASI, was denied FFL due to ATF determining enough evidence implicates her as a co-conspirator who willfully aided and abetted in violating the GCA regulations. Appeal was denied at the SC level.

    Has anyone actually done business with them lately? One can assume she may still be attempting to operate the business on some level. FFL is not required to sell unregulated inventory. Just because the website is still up, does not necessarily mean ASI is able to sell firearms and NFA items at this time. I would think most sane people would avoid transacting with a business known for having dishonest ownership, particularly in the pro-2A culture who favor policing their own.

    I would also consider, in pure speculation, she may be trying trying to sell the company at this point. Perhaps she is even attempting to follow similar model that Badger Guns used in West Milwaukee, WI a few years ago of simply re-naming the business with ownership by another family member who applies and secures the FFL.

    I wonder if Vahan and Martin Shkreli are now BFFL after sharing space together as cellmates at Fort Dix FCI.

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    I bought a couple silencers from them and the Form 3's were approved and items shipped quickly last month. They were listed by bestforsale on Gunbroker and they have a continuation letter from ATF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WTC View Post
    I bought a couple silencers from them and the Form 3's were approved and items shipped quickly last month. They were listed by bestforsale on Gunbroker and they have a continuation letter from ATF.
    What's this letter exactly

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    Is this now referred to as Autoweapons ? Seems like I was in their website when I looked these guys up .

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    I thought he was in jail.

    Pennsylvania firearms dealer sues ATF, U.S. attorney general over license restoration
    FEDERAL COURT

    By Marian Johns | Jan 28, 2020


    PHILADELPHIA – A Pennsylvania firearms dealer is suing the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and U.S. Attorney General William Barr over allegations they have unlawfully failed to make a timely decision on his license restoration application.

    Vahan Kelerchian filed a complaint Jan. 13 in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against the ATF, ATF's Acting Director Regina Lombardo and Barr alleging violation of the Administrative Procedure Act.

    According to the complaint, Kelerchian is a licensed firearm dealer. He claims the ATF is unlawfully refusing to acknowledge or make a decision on his application for restoration of firearms privileges beyond the required 60-day time frame after he faced charges relating to "putative transfer of machine guns and laser-aiming devices" in Indiana in 2013.

    "ATF has informed the undersigned counsel for plaintiff that regardless of the fact that he has made and filed an application for relief of disabilities, based on an internal policy, it intends to revoke his license and contend that the firearms held pursuant to the license are contraband and subject to forfeiture, in the absence of a determination on his application for relief, if the U.S. Supreme Court denies his petition for certiorari," the suit states.

    The plaintiff seeks the court to declare the defendants are prohibited from enforcing the internal policy.

    Kelerchian seeks monetary, injunctive and all other just relief. He is represented by Joshua Prince and Adam Kraut of Prince Law Offices PC in Bechtelsville.

    U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania case number 2:20-CV-00253-WB

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    He was convicted and is in jail. Being in jail does not bar a person from having a wife and legal team acting on their behalf. Nor does it strip him from being principal in ASI.

    It appears ASI's current "Letter of Authorization" from the ATF to continue business expires on July, 7, 2020.

    Most important, pending review by the Supreme Court in the matter of Mr. Kelerchian's petition for certiorari, the ATF intends to finalize stripping Kelerchian/ASI of the license and confiscate the firearms and other NFA items as contraband.

    It is apparent that he and his wife are desperately fighting this.



    https://jnswire.s3.amazonaws.com/jns.../KELERvATF.pdf
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    Now I understand. That would be a damn shame if the ATF confiscated all his firearms. I know his prices were always ridiculous. I was in his giant walking safe one time and most of the stuff on his website he actually has in his possession. Do bad things and bad thing will happen.

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    I continue to do business with them and was very satisfied with 2 transactions just before the holidays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuge View Post
    I continue to do business with them and was very satisfied with 2 transactions just before the holidays.
    I've emailed them ~5 times over the last 10yrs about various things and every reply/price was 50% to 100% over market.
    Dunno, I pretty much gave up looking at their inventory as I assumed they didn't really want to sell anything.
    Perhaps things have changed with the Mrs in charge, lol...

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    Not really. Same sky high prices, same items sitting in inventory.

    Quote Originally Posted by mattnh View Post
    I've emailed them ~5 times over the last 10yrs about various things and every reply/price was 50% to 100% over market.
    Dunno, I pretty much gave up looking at their inventory as I assumed they didn't really want to sell anything.
    Perhaps things have changed with the Mrs in charge, lol...

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    Quote Originally Posted by b_saan View Post
    Not really. Same sky high prices, same items sitting in inventory.
    No kidding.

    When I was looking for a registered receiver M2 Carbine, Vahan had two in stock - one a C&R and the other a Rock Island Armory. Both were beautiful guns.

    I wrote an email asking for prices. He wanted ~$15k for the C&R and ~$12.5k for the RIA. I said no thanks. A while later, I purchased a Rock Island Carbine from Ruben for just shy of $7k.

    With prices like those, I am amazed Vahan ever sold any of his guns to anybody.

    Vahan's latest escapade strikes me as desperate. Clowns like him sully our community.

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    I am surprised that prices weren't dropped to normal price levels, maybe even a little below average prices, to get the items sold while it is still possible for them to sell them. If they were sold and awaiting a decision on the ATF for the transfer to someone else, could the ATF still seize them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glockman View Post
    I am surprised that prices weren't dropped to normal price levels, maybe even a little below average prices, to get the items sold while it is still possible for them to sell them. If they were sold and awaiting a decision on the ATF for the transfer to someone else, could the ATF still seize them?
    I certainly think that has to be a concern. The ATF in many ways proves itself to be a rogue government agency that changes its position at any time. Who can really know what they will do from one day to the next.

    If July 7 comes and the ATF decides not to approve any further transfers because they are considering the items to be "contraband".......good luck getting any refund from ASI if it comes to this point.
    Last edited by OldBesty; 02-01-2020 at 12:17 PM.

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    Bored on a Saturday so I decided to dig around about ASI. Amazed this business is still running. I guess they're just going to keep litigation going with the ATF so they can continue to operate.

    All the FFLs I found were no longer valid on fflezcheck. Who are their customers? They must be the most clueless group in the gun world.

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    His wife is running the business……for now anyway.

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