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    Braces subject to NFA

    Don't start injecting politics into this thread.

    It appears pistol braces are going to be subject to NFA registration via Executive order.

    There is no detail (that I can find) on how this will be done and what existing owners will need to do to comply.

    I'm curious what others who own AR pistols with braces or any of the many other pistols with braces intend to do.

    Do you see a quick registration as a SBR (with the brace) as desirable?

    Would you then put a standard stock on it?

    Would you be inclined to 'remove the brace' and avoid registration?

    Would you sell now to avoid the hassle?

    I'm waiting to see how Ruger responds; their Charger 10/22 with the picatinny rail for braces has been a big seller. I'm likewise trying to figure out whether I would register one of these or just leave off the brace.

    Likewise Smith and Wesson. The S&W M&P15-22 pistol is another dilemma; the non-functional tube is molded as part of the receiver so removing the brace to avoid registration is kind of pointless.

    Let's try to keep the discussion on topic and away from the commentary that will get the thread locked. Please.
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    Bumpstocks, braces, and binary triggers will probably all go by the wayside.

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    Braces will remain legal per what the Whitehouse has published. However, if pistol mounted, the pistol will be subject to NFA registration. So they aren't going away as per the upcoming Executive Orders.

    Braces are the topic here.
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    Just follow the law and do your paperwork/ pay the tax and you can drive your tank and shoot your cannons... and use your silly braces if you like. May as well go SBR if that is the case- and braces will become obsolete. Good news for MG owners IMO of all the pretend MG devices have the same requirements.. may as well go Full Auto.
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    Either SBR or permanently attach a barrel extension and add a stock for non NFA Rifle.
    AR/AK pistols are rumored on the list, so simply removing the Brace may not be an option

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    I have 5 braces, 4 of which are sitting in parts containers, with the e file Form 1 + no sheriff signing everything is getting a stock that will take one plus 2 of my Glocks.

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    yeah, I never went for the "brace craze" as others have, for one they were too expensive for what they were, secondly when I shoot my AR pistol, I just put a section of water pipe insulation over the buffer tube, pad the inside rear of the tube

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    I was under the impression they were executive actions not executive orders which basically have no legal standing?

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    You may not care about braces or bump stocks, but unconstitutional executive actions, that take property from law abiding citizens via regulatory bodies (without legislation) is a BIG deal, and it Will affect us all if we allow it to continue. And Yes, NFA items could also be confiscated using the same approach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offmarksman View Post
    You may not care about braces or bump stocks, but unconstitutional executive actions, that take property from law abiding citizens via regulatory bodies (without legislation) is a BIG deal, and it Will affect us all if we allow it to continue. And Yes, NFA items could also be confiscated using the same approach.
    Confiscating property without compensation, even following legislation, is illegal

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    I agree, but look what already happened with bump stocks. Illegal only matters if people stand up against illegal actions (whether they affect you presently or not)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offmarksman View Post
    You may not care about braces or bump stocks, but unconstitutional executive actions, that take property from law abiding citizens via regulatory bodies (without legislation) is a BIG deal, and it Will affect us all if we allow it to continue. And Yes, NFA items could also be confiscated using the same approach.
    Spot on. This current leadership is just going after the low hanging fruit to see if they can get it to stick. If they are successful, round two will be even more painful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offmarksman View Post
    I agree, but look what already happened with bump stocks. Illegal only matters if people stand up against illegal actions (whether they affect you presently or not)...
    But the Slidefire bumpstock has gone to court in Ohio. During trial, ATF admitted that they don't have the power to ban bumpstocks as bumpstocks don't meet the legal definition of machinegun. ATF petitioned the US Supreme Court to hear the case. The Chief Justice, in a four page response, refused the case and reamed the ATF for over stepping making law instead of enforcing law. Additional suits are making their way though the court system, including an $8,000,000.00 suit from Slidefire for the inventory they had to destroy or register. Our tax dollars hard at work.

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    I'm going to answer the OPs question. I'm hoping to get a free SBR out of the game and nothing more. I got a brace explicitly for this reason as it was a $40 SB3 Knockoff. This is actually a decent "entry" length stock IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A&S Conversions View Post
    But the Slidefire bumpstock has gone to court in Ohio. During trial, ATF admitted that they don't have the power to ban bumpstocks as bumpstocks don't meet the legal definition of machinegun. ATF petitioned the US Supreme Court to hear the case. The Chief Justice, in a four page response, refused the case and reamed the ATF for over stepping making law instead of enforcing law. Additional suits are making their way though the court system, including an $8,000,000.00 suit from Slidefire for the inventory they had to destroy or register. Our tax dollars hard at work.

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    Think of all the money it has cost Individuals (who fund organizations like GOA) to fight this unconstitutional order that banned bump stocks. And as of today, they are still illegal. You will be tried the same as being in possession of an illegal Machinegun to if you are caught with one. To date they have gotten away with it. You may ask How or Why they were allowed to get away with it. The answer is that not enough people stood up to them (including the NRA by the way). Many on this same forum said, bump stocks were gimmicks and that it didn’t matter. See above posts regarding braces, they are very similar. If you don’t defend others, who will defend you later?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Offmarksman View Post
    Think of all the money it has cost Individuals (who fund organizations like GOA) to fight this unconstitutional order that banned bump stocks. And as of today, they are still illegal. You will be tried the same as being in possession of an illegal Machinegun to if you are caught with one. To date they have gotten away with it. You may ask How or Why they were allowed to get away with it. The answer is that not enough people stood up to them (including the NRA by the way). Many on this same forum said, bump stocks were gimmicks and that it didn’t matter. See above posts regarding braces, they are very similar. If you don’t defend others, who will defend you later?
    It is super scary, at this point in time, to still see the “I don’t care about bump stocks” or “I don’t care about braces” comments - especially on a pro 2nd amendment platform such as this.

    It’s not about the item in question so much as it is about the fact the powers that be are trying to strip our rights. Not to mention the fact they are attempting to do this in an unconstitutional fashion. Period.

    Apparently Biden doesn’t have anything more prudent to worry about than when his next pudding cup will arrive, or being the puppet for his socialist movement.

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    Not everyone has paper trails of brace purchases.

    I will get a free stamp for as many braced lowers as I choose to register... or they get zero data. Simple proposition if it comes to that.

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    Maybe some of you will care when things like “match triggers” are on the ban list because “they increase the rate of fire” or “weapons of war” turns to “optics of war” and red dots and holo sights are on the list.
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    We all care, quite much.

    Then again we can observe what is real and isn’t...

    This EO flurry is just a burp, nothing worth worrying about.

    Heartburn at worst if you don’t like chicken/pork/beef Vienna sausages, which this is.

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