Fn-fal

[grezy]

If you NFA / SBR a fn-fal receiver can use any parts kit. Will U.S parts requirement be in play or not.

 

[Kramer]

It used to be no, but there is a letter going around from 1999 that states if you build it with a foreign reciever then it has to be 922R compliant.

 

[az_gun_nut]

Are you referring to taking an existing FN-FAL and turning into an SBR or taking a new receiver and building an SBR? Two different scenarios.

 

[grezy]

Are you referring to taking an existing FN-FAL and turning into an SBR or taking a new receiver and building an SBR? Two different scenarios.

New receiver

 

[Surly]

Mine was a pistol initially. I built it on a US receiver. I then SBR'd it. I was under the presumption that NFA trumped 922r. :dunno

 

[Kramer]

I built it on a US receiver. I then SBR'd it. I was under the presumption that NFA trumped 922r. :dunno

With a U.S. receiver yes.

 

[grezy]

What size or length of barrel would be the best if I short barrel it

 

[wonderdog451]

The shortest I would go and therefore avoid bending the gas piston is 16". Or you could just buy a DSA short-gas front end.:uzi

 

[az_gun_nut]

Why not just buy a factory DSA FAL SBR? By the time you buy all the parts, pay to have the work done, waste time tinkering to get it to run right, you'd be money and time ahead just buying a factory gun that has a warranty and should run right out of the box.

 

[Surly]

The shortest I would go and therefore avoid bending the gas piston is 16". Or you could just buy a DSA short-gas front end.:uzi

Bent gas piston? I never bent mine and it's seen around 1K or better. :dunno

 

[Surly]

Why not just buy a factory DSA FAL SBR? By the time you buy all the parts, pay to have the work done, waste time tinkering to get it to run right, you'd be money and time ahead just buying a factory gun that has a warranty and should run right out of the box.

I built mine because everyone said I couldn't and that it would never function correctly. I have into it less than the cost of a DSA barreled upper to boot. :evilgrin

 

[wonderdog451]

Personally, I feel that with the 7.62x51/.308 Winchester cartridge, any barrel length shorter than 16" is a waste. And as stated might leave you vulnerable to issues with function. I have 3 fn-fal rifles so far, a 21", a 18" and a short-gas 14" with a non removable flash-hider to bring it up to 16.5". The short gas is my favorite due to it's light weight.

 

[az_gun_nut]

I built mine because everyone said I couldn't and that it would never function correctly. I have into it less than the cost of a DSA barreled upper to boot. :evilgrin

You did good Surly, that Para Shorty looks sweet. I had a 16 inch Imbel (14 inch barrel with perm attache muzzle brake) that just would not run 100%. I replaced everything in the gas system but it would still FTE one or two rounds out of 20 without turning the gas system open higher than setting 3. Was that a factory DSA shorty upper or did you make your own barrel/gas system?

 

[grezy]

Bent gas piston? I never bent mine and it's seen around 1K or better. :dunno

Now that's bad ass that's what I am looking to do

 

[Surly]

You did good Surly, that Para Shorty looks sweet. I had a 16 inch Imbel (14 inch barrel with perm attache muzzle brake) that just would not run 100%. I replaced everything in the gas system but it would still FTE one or two rounds out of 20 without turning the gas system open higher than setting 3. Was that a factory DSA shorty upper or did you make your own barrel/gas system?

That's my own doing. I forget what the gas setting is, but it's pretty much closed. I'm not too worried about adjusting it down or it needing more gas due to being fouled from extended shooting.

The whole bent this, broken that bullshit is just that...bullshit. I have a 5.5" AK pistol that's 100% and I have the barrel ready for a 3.25" when I get around to it. Obviously, I'm not planning on the next zombie insurrection with the ballistics. These are toys that give me and others pleasure and that's why I like them. Pissing others off that say it can't be done is gratifying as well. :evilgrin

 

[Surly]

Now that's bad ass that's what I am looking to do

Cool. That one is 8.5" and it's OAL is still longer than my RFB at 18".:evilgrin

 

[wonderdog451]

How has the RFB handled and functioned so far?

 

[garandman]

Pissing others off that say it can't be done is gratifying as well. :evilgrin

With a name like Surly, I never woulda guessed that. :devil :evilgrin


Truly cool FAL and Keltec.

 

[Surly]

How has the RFB handled and functioned so far?

The only problem I had with it was with one of the retaining ears bending inward in the spent casing chute. It wouldn't eject casings until I tore it apart and bent it back out. I wasn't certain if these were heat treated and I contacted Kel-Tec. The sent me a new chute within a one week period and It hasn't fucked up since. It's definitely a keeper for me. I'm going to be lengthening it with a can this year and it will be getting more range time.

 

[wonderdog451]

I have wondered, do the magazines on the RFB rock in like the Fal or is it a straight insertion like the Ar-15? And, does the stock fold?